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My mom has a 2006 Ford Escape Hybrid. On page 158 of the manual, under the heading of Installing Child Safety Seats with combination lap shoulder belts it says "The rear seat head restraints must be removed when using a child seat."
They never say why. We have my daughter's Scenera installed rearfacing using LATCH. I can't figure out what good removing the head restraint in front of her will do. They don't even specify that they mean the particular head rest. It seems from the pictures that they mean with forward facing seats, and (maybe) only with the belts. I know someone else has an Escape. What do they mean? And why? Removing the head rest isn't really a problem, but it's one more thing to have to do. Thanks
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Virginia
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Re: Head rests and child seat in Ford Escape
That's one of those weird rules I've chosen to ignore about my Escape
. *as long as* a FF top tether isn't a problem around the headrest... can you imagine for a minute if the top tether is right in the middle of the headrest and the strap has to kind of wrap over or under it? That'd be bad, from a 'stress point' perspective. As long as the headrest isn't interfering with the tether or making the seat install way too upright, I'd leave it on, personally.
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Re: Head rests and child seat in Ford Escape
I've also chosen to ignore this rule, unless I can't get a good fit. I have used very few ff seats in my car, so it hasn't been a problem, yet! I can't see the problem when using a rf seat. I'd say leave it! JMO!
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Re: Head rests and child seat in Ford Escape
i actually removed the headrest behind our RYS, but only because it detracts from our rear visibility. since no adult is seated where the carseat is installed, i see no reason to keep the headrest there.
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Re: Head rests and child seat in Ford Escape
it's for forward facing seats, because it interferes with the tether strap.
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Re: Head rests and child seat in Ford Escape
We ignore unless it interferes.
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Re: Head rests and child seat in Ford Escape
There may be an issue with rebounding rear facing seats that places the head rest directly in line with the child's face. Frankly, I would follow the manufacturer's instructions unless the manufacturer provides the reason behind their caution for removing the head rest. Until that information is known, failure to follow the manufacturer's instructions is not making an informed decision which could prove dangerous to a child.
As for forward facing, there may be additional stress placed on the head rest which could cause it to malfuction (read break) creating a loose projectile in the vehicle. Again, unless you know for sure, following the car seat and vehicle manufacturer instructions is the safest, and sometimes the only, way to ride.
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