RF toddler

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emtangel

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RF toddler

I know in some countries they keep thier chilfren RF much longer than in the US. Is there a way to get one of these car seats, and if there is are they certified for use in the US. Also have you ever heard of anyone doing this. My last ? what is your openion on built in Carseats. All of this is for a 16 month old. He is Appx 30Lbs and 37 in.

Thank you for your time
 
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CPSDarren

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Re: RF toddler

It is true that you can find carseats in Sweden that will allow you to rearface well beyond 35 pounds. Technically, you could buy one if you could find a retailier online in Sweden, or if you had a friend there. The seat would not be certified or legal in the USA, but you could make your own decision to use it for the added safety benefits. I wouldn't necessarily recommend this, but it is possible. Also see our guide to extended rear-facing for seats available in the USA which may last longer than others:

www.car-safety.org/rearface.html

As for built in carseats, please also see:

user.mc.net/~carseat/faq.html#Q14

Darren
 
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UlrikeDG

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There may also be compatibility issues...

European car standards are different from US car standards. For example, US standards require seatbelts to be self locking (e.g., ALR or locking latch plate) while German standards only require the belt to lock during crash dynamics (i.e., ELR). Swedish seats *may* require hardware installation in the vehicle, which US cars are not equipped for.
 
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Tupu

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RF car seats

The car seats used in Finland and Sweden are very differently designed. It leaves more legroom - almost like FF. The way they work is that they have a leg that they rest on ( I think I saw something similar for one infant seat here in the US). The way the are buckeled in is that there is a belt is attached around the front seat. All the parts needed come with the seat but generally the seats are installed when bought just to make sure that are secure. And gosh, they sit there rock solid and usually until the kid turns 4 or 5.

Good luck
 
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emtAngel

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One more question

Thanks for the replies, it sounds like I should definitely stay with a US seat. One of my other questions was how do built in car seats rate in safety. The car seat is in the 2 seat of a 2003 Dodge Durango. Right now I am using a Evenflo I believe it is a Victory. I know it is rear facing till 30Lbs and then from facing till 40. It is on a "base" and can recline. It does use the latch system my my Durango also has. I was wondering which is safer. Sometimes knowledge is dangerous. I know that there is always a chance a car seat can be thrown from a car and for that reason I tend to think the built in one is safer. But being and EMT I also know that if a child is in an accident the best was to secure the child is to leave them IN the car seat and just remove it from the car a secure them in it. That is my biggest debate which is safer. Thanks again for the advice.
 
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emtAngel

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Re: One more question

Thanks for the reply I will have to look into the Britex. My only issure with the coscos is that he is a very tall child for his age and I know alot of them have "shorter" shoulder settings than other brands. I am also still debating on when I turn him rather to use the built in one or not. Thanks.
 
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CPSDarren

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More information-

The top slots of Cosco convertible models are actually pretty typical, and similar to those on your Victory. On the other hand, Cosco combination boosters do have lower than average slot heights compared to other combination models.

For extended rear-facing, the Britax Marathon Julie mentioned is the tallest convertible on the market, plus it has high slot heights and nice 33/65 pound limits.

Rearfacing carseats are going to be safer than any built-in carseat for kids within the height and weight ranges. Built-in carseats are safe for chidlren too large to be rear-facing, as long as they meet the requirements and fit well in them. The link I posted earlier has some other advantages and disadvantages to built-in carseats.

Good luck!

Darren
 
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emtAngel

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Thank You

<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> Thank you for the great info and the link about the built in car seat was a big help. I will be sure to reccomend you to anyone that has a carseat question.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">
 
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UlrikeDG

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So that you know, my friend has built in seats in her van...

She is a CPS Tech, and she only uses the built in seat as a last resort. It is very uncomfortable, and the only set of "slots" is so high that it doesn't fit most kids very well at all. Also, it provides no sleep support or side impact protection, which are two advantages of a front facing convertible seat. She appreciates having the option if she ever has to give someone a ride (e.g., if I locked my keys in the car, she'd come pick me up and use the built in for one of my kids and her spare booster for the other), but for her own kids 99% of the time, she uses a car seat, rather than the built-in.
 

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