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Mommy0608
07-02-2009, 10:16 PM
...according to Safety 1st's facebook page. The lowest slots are 10". The seat has 5 harness/headrest positions. Still no word on the interior shell height, but I posted a question on their facebook page asking for the information. I will post back if I receive an answer.

ginny4
07-02-2009, 10:19 PM
seems to be inline with all other HWH seats. that's good

An Aurora
07-02-2009, 11:17 PM
Lame! :thumbsdown:

ketchupqueen
07-02-2009, 11:22 PM
17 is not too shabby. It's the same as the Radian and a bit more than the TrueFit. It should get most kids to the 50 lb. limit. :)

chickabiddy
07-02-2009, 11:27 PM
I agree -- not bad for a 50# convertible, but some kids won't be able to go straight to booster.

ketchupqueen
07-02-2009, 11:32 PM
No, but there are what, like 4 seats on the market that those kids with more than 17 inch torsos can fit, right? And 2 of those soon to NOT be on the market. So I'm not too disappointed in it. :) Heck, maybe Dorel will come out with a really really tall HWH combo seat to follow this one up! :D

An Aurora
07-02-2009, 11:34 PM
17 is not too shabby. It's the same as the Radian and a bit more than the TrueFit. It should get most kids to the 50 lb. limit. :)

:confused: I thought the MA was 16, and the Radian/EFTA/TF were all 18...

featherhead
07-02-2009, 11:35 PM
:confused: I thought the MA was 16, and the Radian/EFTA/TF were all 18...

I guess it all depends on who measures. I thought the EFTA and True Fit were 17, and the Radian 18.

ketchupqueen
07-02-2009, 11:39 PM
SKJP says the Radian is 18, but very few of us get that when we measure. Most of us get about 17.

The TF usually measures about 16 1/2.

The MA is about 16.

skylinphoto
07-02-2009, 11:40 PM
I'm happy to hear it's 17in. It's a good number that will get most kids to booster age (alongside the 50lb weight limit).

Way to go Dorel on this one. It's super awesome to see a mainstream brand (and graco too) producing seats that will not only keep kids rfing longer but will also take most kids to appropriate booster ages.

An Aurora
07-02-2009, 11:41 PM
Weird, I'll have to measure my TF.

bobandjess99
07-02-2009, 11:46 PM
If it is indeed the aoe shell, that top slot height of 17 is really high...at least as high as the TF, way higher than the ma, and only an inch of so under the nautilus.

firemomof3
07-03-2009, 06:53 AM
SKJP says the Radian is 18, but very few of us get that when we measure. Most of us get about 17.

The TF usually measures about 16 1/2.

The MA is about 16.

I get 17.5" on my True Fit

An Aurora
07-03-2009, 08:28 AM
I get 17.5" on my True Fit

Glad I'm not the only one :D. My DD had the same amount of room in the EFTA, Radian, and TF. :thumbsup:

Mommy0608
07-03-2009, 08:38 AM
:confused:

I get at LEAST 17.5" when I measure the TF. I got less than that when I measured the Radian and Marathon.

I'm okay with the 17" slots on this new seat. Higher would be better, but with a 50lb limit, it's reasonable.

WhatAboutPuppy
07-03-2009, 12:19 PM
Personally I think if the top slots are 17" with a 50 pound limit there's a good chance my DSS2 will out grow it in weight before height. DSS1 is tall and skinny and weighs 49 pounds, he has about an inch and a half left in the Frontier. So his SOLID little brother needs a heigher weight limit on his seats...

Maedze
07-03-2009, 12:23 PM
I'm baffled when I hear people say 18 for the Radian. I've owned five of them, different styles, and I've never gotten a hair over 17.

chickabiddy
07-03-2009, 12:24 PM
I'm baffled when I hear people say 18 for the Radian. I've owned five of them, different styles, and I've never gotten a hair over 17.

Make it naked. It's a lot closer to 18" naked.

Madeline410
07-03-2009, 12:42 PM
So do you think it's more likely for a kid to make it to 40# RF in this seat than the MR?

bobandjess99
07-03-2009, 12:50 PM
So do you think it's more likely for a kid to make it to 40# RF in this seat than the MR?

If the top of the headrest is the same as the top of the headrest in an aoe, then absolutely.
My dd, who i have posted pics of in the giantthread, has a solid 2 inches plus over her head in the aoe on top setting, and her head is already over the shell of the MR. so yes....tons more height.

Maedze
07-03-2009, 12:51 PM
So do you think it's more likely for a kid to make it to 40# RF in this seat than the MR?

Most average kids will make it to the 40 lbs in the MyRide.

The new Air Protect will definitely provide options for taller kids or thinner kids though :thumbsup:

bobandjess99
07-03-2009, 12:58 PM
Most average kids will make it to the 40 lbs in the MyRide.

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I'm not sure I agree with this. I haven't yet sat down to think it through completely, but I'd say absolutely no more than 50% of kids would, and honestly, i'm not sure about the 50%. My dd is short and heavy, so exactly the kind of kid the mr seems designed for, and wouldn't have made it past about 35 lbs in this seat..now granted, she has a longer torso, but still...as a 40th percentile for height, 70 th percentile for weight 3.5 year old, she would have outgrown this seat at about 35 lbs.

I'd maybe say most kids with short torsoes will hit 40 in the seat...average kids I'd say maybe 50%, and kids who are overall tall, or average-short but with long torsoes probably no more than 25% of the kids will get to 40. thats just off the top of my head. Then wdeight plays in...we have kids hitting 40 at age 2...yes, most of those, even if they are tall, will hit 40 in the seat...but what about the 4, 5, 6, year olds who are just hitting 40? Many ofthem we be too tall for the seat well before 40.

Madeline410
07-03-2009, 01:10 PM
My DS is 25-50%ile for weight and height for his age, and he is very very close to outgrowing the MR at 33-34 lbs. I wish the Air Protect was cheaper and available sooner!

joolsplus3
07-03-2009, 07:22 PM
MA and RN are both 17, but the RN is so much more upright it lasts kids about a year longer than the MA. Britax says the top torso height for the MA is 16, I halfway think that's so people don't buy it for a kid with a torso height taller than that and then gripe that it didn't fit long enough :rolleyes:. Wendy has a picture of a mysterious RN that has 18 inches with the cover on....
I think 17 is fine for most kids... that was 6.5 for my kid, maybe not Unityco's or AuntietoAvi's kidlets who were too tall at 3-4, but those are big guys... :twocents::)

cookie123
07-03-2009, 07:54 PM
Really? Hannah and Brett still have room in the Radian to grow and they outgrew the MA's a long time ago. Maybe around the time Matthew was born, I think.

featherhead
07-03-2009, 11:23 PM
MA and RN are both 17, but the RN is so much more upright it lasts kids about a year longer than the MA. Britax says the top torso height for the MA is 16, I halfway think that's so people don't buy it for a kid with a torso height taller than that and then gripe that it didn't fit long enough :rolleyes:. Wendy has a picture of a mysterious RN that has 18 inches with the cover on....
I think 17 is fine for most kids... that was 6.5 for my kid, maybe not Unityco's or AuntietoAvi's kidlets who were too tall at 3-4, but those are big guys... :twocents::)

I'm pretty sure mine measures 18 with the cover on.

DahliaRW
07-04-2009, 05:55 PM
My Radian harness (2007 model) definitely goes higher than my MA (2005 model). Ds1 sometimes climbs into ds2's rfing radian and he's under the top harness slot even with it reclined. In the MA his shoulder are a bit above, even when installed FFing completely upright.

IMO, 17" is acceptable for a seat. In all honesty, if I buy one it won't be for the ffing aspect anyways, mostly for rfing. And once ds2 outgrows it rfing it'll probably go to baby #3 and he'll go back into the radian or into the nautilus that we already own.

flipper68
07-04-2009, 08:49 PM
I don't worry about the 4+ yr old that is too tall to RF - even if they only weigh 30 lbs, they should be plenty safe FF.

I LOVE the 40lb. limit because it reinforces the "rear facing longer" concept.

It ensures that the majority of kids (including the chunky monkeys and the long & lean kiddos) can remain rf'ing through age 2.