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*Spoiledinmyhouseofblue*
12-18-2008, 07:17 PM
I have a scenera. I grabbed one when we were very low on money to RF my 26 month old(before I knew better he was in a chase FF that was almost expired).
Anyways.. I use it often for daycare kiddos. Well, I haven't used that seat since daycare kid left in October(mom is on maternity leave)-well, he is coming back in January/febuary(mom is still deciding when). She is a britax person and cares about carseat saftey.

So, anyways... Do you feel like a child is 100% safe in a scenera. I have no problem with the scenera. Easy to install(FF), Love how it is nice for 3-across in my van.

I am just feeling guilty all my seats have EPS foam(even my chase) and this one doesn't. No one complains though. But, still.....

He was about 1/2 inch/inch left to outgrowing it in october(I know he is on the top slots of his marathon with TONS of room to grow).

I forget does the Uptown or Avenue have taller Slots? It should still fit nice right in my 3-across?

I am going to keep the scenera regardless, just because it is a nice cheap seat.

But.... I am really concerned lately with the lack of EPS foam.

What do you think for a daycare situation??? It will eventually be used by one of the daycare babies.....

Maedze
12-18-2008, 07:21 PM
i think it's up to the mom to provide you with the appropriate seat :twocents:

how old big is he? why can't his mom make sure you have a proper seat?

minismom
12-18-2008, 07:26 PM
I think it's a fine seat and very safe. However, I woudn't put my own kid in it unless I couldn't afford anything else cause I think there's a benefit to having the foam and it's worth the $ if you can afford it. That being said I don't think it's your obligation as a DCMom to provide the finest seats available and as a mom I wouldn't expect you to. I would tell the mom this is the seat you have and if she wants to she can provide you with a different seat. :twocents:

TXAggieTech
12-18-2008, 07:30 PM
On son rode in Sceneras part of the time before he got too tall this past year. As long as they don't have the cut outs or sit to wear the head does not line up with the cut outs I am okay with using one.

tanyaandallie
12-18-2008, 07:37 PM
I have a scenera and have always felt fine when ds rides in it. The seat is safe. It passes all the same testing as other seats. He is likely safer in the scenera than the large majority of children out there since most kids seats are installed and/or used incorrectly.

I would guess he will be outgrowing it soon, though, if he is on the top slots of the MA. My ds is right on the edge of outgrowing and it and wavering between the top slots on his MA and the slots below.

christineka
12-18-2008, 07:39 PM
I feel that my dd is safe in her properly used scenera.

If you are looking to buy a new seat, the avenue has 16 inch top slots and the shell hight is an inch taller than the scenera's. It also has an 8 year lifespan in case you plan to do daycare for a long time.

papooses
12-18-2008, 07:55 PM
I used the Scenera for my daycare kids, too . . . I also used it to give DD an extra 2 pounds worth of RF'ing.... I did wish it had EPS/EPP foam, but never to the point that I thought the seat unsafe or otherwise unworthy -- kids have survived some pretty intense looking crashes in correctly used Sceneras :thumbsup: (kids have also not survived milder crashes with incorrectly used "high end" seats :thumbsdown:) Fancy enhancements are only worth troubling over if you can afford them. If you can't then rest assured that correct use is all you need to concern yourself with :o:love:

MissKatie
12-18-2008, 07:56 PM
I prefer a seat with EPS. That said, I have a spare Cosco HBB in my trunk for the next time I run into someone who needs one (it was originally for a neighbor but she got a seat). I would buy a scenera to use as a spare. If I was transporting a child regularly and could afford it though, I would PREFER using something with EPS. That said, I DO NOT, repeat DO NOT feel that the scenera is inherently unsafe. That's what we give out at seat checks. It's what I would buy someone who was financially unable to afford a seat and I wanted to get them one. It's what I recommended to a coworker who is struggling to put food on the table. Don't beat yourself up over it.

Andie
12-18-2008, 07:58 PM
I have a scenera and have always felt fine when ds rides in it. The seat is safe. It passes all the same testing as other seats. He is likely safer in the scenera than the large majority of children out there since most kids seats are installed and/or used incorrectly.

:yeahthat:

We love our Scenera. I never felt that my child was less safe when he was in it.


If you are looking to buy a new seat, the avenue has 16 inch top slots and the shell hight is an inch taller than the scenera's. It also has an 8 year lifespan in case you plan to do daycare for a long time.

We just got a new to us Uptown. I measured the shell on both seats, the Scenera is 23", and the Uptown is 24", IIRC. BUT, the bottom slot on the Scenera is 7", while the Uptown is 9", so for smaller kids or newborns, it wouldn't fit as well, IMO. I was also told that the Uptown/Avenue is comparable to the Marathon in shell and top slot heights.

NannyMom
12-18-2008, 08:11 PM
My DD has many many seats. She's 2 years old and RF. She has a scenera in grandma's car, and a scenera as a back up seat (which I also used for my friend's DD once a week). If I didn't think it was safe, I wouldn't use it, period. However, I do prefer to use a seat with EPS foam as her main seat.

If the Mom of the daycare child wants a "better" seat used, she should provide you with one.

If the Scenera is all I can afford, I'd use it as an everyday seat (and often suggest it to other parents).

NannyMom
12-18-2008, 08:13 PM
I feel that my dd is safe in her properly used scenera.

If you are looking to buy a new seat, the avenue has 16 inch top slots and the shell hight is an inch taller than the scenera's. It also has an 8 year lifespan in case you plan to do daycare for a long time.

I thought the Avenue was the same as Uptown. Does Uptown have an 8 year lifespan as well? FOr some reason I thought it was 7.

Andie
12-18-2008, 08:16 PM
I thought the Avenue was the same as Uptown. Does Uptown have an 8 yaer lifespan as well? FOr some reason I thought it was 7.

Yes.

christineka
12-18-2008, 08:46 PM
I thought the Avenue and Uptown were nearly the same. I get 10 inches for the bottom slot, though. I sat my dd in both the avenue and the marathon and she had the same amount of room above her head in both.

stayinhomewithmy4
12-18-2008, 08:55 PM
If the Mom of the daycare child wants a "better" seat used, she should provide you with one.

If the Scenera is all I can afford, I'd use it as an everyday seat (and often suggest it to other parents).

I agree with that. When I was doing daycare I used a Scenera as a spare. I was fine with it and thought the kids who rode in it were perfectly safe. My own kids did ride in it occasionally too, like if I had an over 40 lb daycare kid, he/she would ride in DS's BV and DS would ride in the Scenera (when he was still under 40 lbs). I sort of had some guilt sometimes with the thought that my own kids were in Britax & Recaro seats and the daycare kids were in Dorel seats, but the parents didn't care enough to know the difference anyway. When I did ask one parent to provide a seat, he brought one that was missing a piece and had the straps TIED together in back. :eek: Yeah, a Scenera is DEFINITELY better than that.

joolsplus3
12-18-2008, 09:02 PM
I'm very likely going to use my Scenera next week when we have family in town and I have to get the three kids in the back of the van... I actually like it better FF than the Radian... I haven't decided yet, but I'm not concerned about any lack of safety, really (The same basic seat, as the Touriva, has been on the market for over 10 years now and the notches in the shell have been the only safety issue for a tiny fraction of the millions of kids who have ridden in it, so I suspect the seat is really quite safe...mine has no notches, fortunately).

:)

mominabigtruck
12-18-2008, 09:31 PM
Wouldn't own one, period.

Do I think they're safe? Sure

Do I think they're better then nothing or an expired piece of crap? Yep

Do I think its as safe as a seat as other seats? Nope

I don't have anything against cosco/djg but when you buy cheap you get cheap. I personally don't want my kids' head smacking against a think piece of plastic in an accident:twocents:

NannyMom
12-18-2008, 09:55 PM
I sort of had some guilt sometimes with the thought that my own kids were in Britax & Recaro seats and the daycare kids were in Dorel seats, but the parents didn't care enough to know the difference anyway.

I have that same guilt when I put my friend's DD in the Scenera next to Sofi's Marathon. But...with her Mom she's FF and with me she's RF....so she's deffinetly safer in my car I reason :)

ketchupqueen
12-18-2008, 10:28 PM
I just loaned out my Scenera to get a kid RF in a car where the 3-in-1 he was in wouldn't fit RF in our setup. I feel he is way safer in a seat with no EPS/EPP RF, than FF in one with (he's 18 months old.) I do feel that a seat with EPS/EPP is safER than the Scenera-- but the Scenera is a safe seat, that works because of its size, cost, etc. in situations where often other seats won't, and can keep kids RF who might otherwise not be. So I'm fine using it when I have to.

*Spoiledinmyhouseofblue*
12-18-2008, 10:55 PM
I provide all my seats(I just feel better about that, and what if I broke someone else's seat)......she doesn't care that he is in a scenera at all..... it is me who is worried about the lack of EPS foam!
I wouldnt' need it for small babies as I have a Safeseat and I will be getting a snugride sometime this year from my cousin(who I bought 2 snugrides for her twins)...the daycare mom is bringing the snugride(and a base for me) for the 3 month old.

Stretchy Glue
12-18-2008, 11:49 PM
I buy Sceneras for all of my friends/family as a baby shower gift. I like the seat because it's easy to use. I have no qualms what so ever about using one in my car, or giving one to anyone as a gift.

chickabiddy
12-19-2008, 07:30 AM
A Scenera would not be my first choice personally (writing as a parent, not as a tech), but I'd be fine using it if it was the seat that fit my child, car, and budget.

What do you think for a daycare situation??? It will eventually be used by one of the daycare babies.....

If you are in charge of the children and the seats, and you are not comfortable using the seat, then don't use it for a daycare child. IOW, if you truly don't think it's safe to use, don't use it for a daycare child.

papooses
12-19-2008, 07:45 AM
P.S. remember that EPS/EPP foam is a relatively new "standard" addition to carseats but kids still survived (even with very minor injuries) for decades without EPS/EPP foam :twocents: Again, while I do prefer EPS/EPP foam, it's not a make or break it thing when the Scenera is the seat that fits the child, fits the vehicle, fits the budget & will be used correctly everytime.

skueppers
12-19-2008, 10:38 AM
When I have a guest ride in my car, I have one of my own kids ride in the seat I feel is least safe (no EPS foam, worse side impact protection, whatever). I put the guest child in the seat I think is safer.

If that's possible in your situation, it might help you feel better!

dhardawa
12-19-2008, 02:29 PM
I received a Scenera when I did a clinic last spring and thought it would be great for when I need to put three across in my car. To this day, that seat has never been used. I can't bring myself to take my baby out of his Britax and put him in the Scenera. My biggest issue is wondering what Cosco knows is wrong with it that they are covering up (as they have been known to do with other seats/issues in the past). I don't trust the company and I'm not comfortable putting my baby in a seat manufactured by them.

So, my answer is, I wouldn't use it, but probably not for the same reasons you are questioning.

canmom
12-19-2008, 03:49 PM
Wouldn't own one, period.

Do I think they're safe? Sure

Do I think they're better then nothing or an expired piece of crap? Yep

Do I think its as safe as a seat as other seats? Nope



I agree... I have only installed one but I didn't like it... seems really cheap to me. But again, if that is all someone could afford, I think it is fine.

Kat_Momof3
12-21-2008, 04:12 AM
Ruthie rode in one as a primary seat so that I could give her OLDER and BIGGER brother her Marathon to get him back out of a booster (he was in one since just before age 4, when he hit 40lbs) until I could get him a bigger seat (IE... babylove's big closeout when the Huskies went bye-bye)

I would use it in a heartbeat for any child.

would I prefer eps foam?? of course

would I have spent the money to get her an uptown/avenue at the time if they'd been on the market even if not until I'd already made the scenera her primary?? YES

BUT... if I was taking care of someone else's kid and they didn't provide me with an adequate seat so I had to buy a seat myself so I could go where I needed to go? I'd either use the scenera I have or buy one and not worry about spending any more unless they need taller top slots... unless I had a lot of money that it was not a big deal.

I know you live on a budget, so I would say use the scenera and don't worry... it's very safe...

*Spoiledinmyhouseofblue*
12-21-2008, 04:20 AM
Ok, so I decided I will just keep using the scenera. Cuz, I am already going to have to get a nautilus/radian when they outgrow their current seats(chase and scenera). So either way I need 2 new seats. I refuse to put him in a booster at 4/40 pounds. (Mom is ok with it, but I am not because he is a MOVER). Either way one of those seats I can use as a tax deduction so it is ok. And I have been saving for both of those seats for a lil' while. I am just using the seats they currently have till the last possible minute ;-)! I am hoping for a better option than the nautilus at that point.... I love the nautilus, but Logan is a huge sleeper in the car, and I am afraid of the not enough recline...