View Full Version : Clek Oobr!
jubgulia
08-26-2008, 01:32 PM
Did you guys see this?!
http://www.babychic101.com/
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_STL3ku6Ae2k/SLNVDWfGOkI/AAAAAAAAEJ8/UDsPjonkjxA/s320/clek_oobr%5B1%5D.jpg
Clek Booster Seats will be unveiling its newest product, the Oobr, later this year. Oobr is the only full-back booster seat that features the exclusive Elemental Safety System(tm), a combination of five key safety technology that work together to protect children. The rigid LATCH system keeps the seat in place, while the magnesium seat frame and steel headrest structure help stabilize the booster seat and manage crash forces.
Energy absorbing foam in both the head restraint and side bolsters provides added side impact protection, and the belt guides better position the seat belt on the child's shoulders and hips. Oobr is the only booster seat to feature Crypton Super Fabric seat covers that are stain, water and bacteria resistant. Special edition oobr boosters seats featuring Julius the Monkey and other designs by Paul Frank. Oobr converts to a backless booster seat to appeal to growing children.
featherhead
08-26-2008, 01:46 PM
Sounds pretty snazzy. Too bad my dd won't need a booster for many many years.
eta: I don't think the cover is snazzy, just the design. The cover is pretty ugly.
Wow. That is ugly.
Thanks for the pic though.
Starlight
08-26-2008, 01:51 PM
God, I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who finds this thing ugly. Seriously, it's hideous.
mommy2env
08-26-2008, 01:53 PM
Seriously?
Wow. Beyond ugly.
MomToEliEm
08-26-2008, 01:54 PM
I was curious to see what the special edition covers might look like so I googled "Paul Frank Julius The Monkey" and found the following sheet set with the design.
http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Frank-Julius-Monkey-Duvet/dp/B001238TWA
I don't know if I would like that design, but with another cover with some colors to it, it probably would be a nice booster. I am anxious to hear the real life reviews of it.
unityco
08-26-2008, 01:54 PM
I can't imagine the actual product will look like that! That prototype reminds me of my GM Loveseat from the 70s!
joolsplus3
08-26-2008, 01:57 PM
I can't imagine the actual product will look like that! That prototype reminds me of my GM Loveseat from the 70s!
Hahahaha! And it's not my idea of drop dead gorgeous, but I can actually imagine it in a very high end car with a tan interior...it just screams 'mercedes!' to me :love:
The Cleks I have are so incredibly adorable, I know this one will be, too :)
scatterbunny
08-26-2008, 02:16 PM
I actually like it. :D It's a bit boxy, but I think it will be roomy and comfortable for big kids. And, the cover reminds me of a Britax cover (Brownstone?). Love the tall armrests, deep wings and shoulderbelt guides (like how they are open enough to allow free sliding of the belt, but closed enough that the belt won't fall out of the guide when unbuckled).
snowbird25ca
08-26-2008, 02:19 PM
And I think it's also worth pointing out that Clek has it's roots in vehicle seating engineering, so I'm 100% confident that any cover on the Oobr won't self destruct quite as quickly as some of the others we've been seeing lately. ;)
I really like how deep the shell is, and the interior is very spacious for a growing kid. While we all love cute covers, at the end of the day I'd rather have a comfortable and highly functional booster with a cover that is going to last it's lifespan, than pretty fabric. Although that monkey print definitely gives hope... Pure gray wouldn't be so bad either since it would mesh with a vehicle interior and kids may feel less self conscious about that. (Don't hate me for suggesting gray. :o )
momto2boysinOnt
08-26-2008, 03:12 PM
Personally, I don't really care what a seat looks like, as long as it fits my kids and my car well and is safe. Funky covers are a nice bonus, but I've never chosen my seats based on the looks.
That said, it's the white shell that stands out as not particularly attractive. The beige cover reminds me of one of the Britax colours, and it would match my mom's car interior well. I'd prefer a black shell, but I'm sure not going to let that stop me if the Oobr is a great seat.
I'm eagerly awaiting a release date here in Canada!
thepeach80
08-26-2008, 05:34 PM
I don't like it, but we have a few years, lol. Ilana likes it though, she saw it and yelled 'carseat, carseat'. She's mommy's little tech in training, I LOVE it!
tanyaandallie
08-26-2008, 05:38 PM
Hmmmm, not loving it either. The white plus tan does look very 70's or something. While I don't pick seats based on looks alone if there are 2 seats that function well and one is cute and one is, well, not so cute, I'm going to go for the cute. Hopefully the special edition fabrics will spice things up a bit!
joolsplus3
08-26-2008, 05:38 PM
I don't like it, but we have a few years, lol. Ilana likes it though, she saw it and yelled 'carseat, carseat'. She's mommy's little tech in training, I LOVE it!
Leah saw it on that page and the carseat got her just slightly more excited than Suri Cruise's pink dress :love:
tanyaandallie
08-26-2008, 05:40 PM
I wonder what the price is going to be. I can imagine not on the cheap side given the price of the Olli
Jacks
08-26-2008, 07:06 PM
Can't wait to hear what people think IRL. Anyone know how tall the belt guides go in comparison to other boosters?
katiesmommy
08-26-2008, 08:18 PM
:yeahthat: I wanna know how tall and how wide it is.
thepeach80
08-26-2008, 09:03 PM
Leah saw it on that page and the carseat got her just slightly more excited than Suri Cruise's pink dress :love:
I have a feeling Ilana and Leah could be good friends. ;) Things that get her excited, babies, carseats, clothes, and not so much anymore, but shoes. She's quite the girly girl much to my happiness!
bubbaray
08-26-2008, 09:52 PM
Why is the seat ugly? Cover, maybe -- but the seat? The seat is no more ugly than any other booster with SIP.
I'm not a fan of beige in general and definitely not for things car-related, BUT, Clek has a rockin' selection of covers for their other seats. I'd expect they will come out with something far more exciting that beige. None of their other seats are white, so I doubt they'd make a white plastic shell either.
Isn't this just a prototype?
Heather98012
08-26-2008, 09:55 PM
I actually kinda like it. It seems very Scandanavian to me; clean, minimal styling.
And I have always :love: Julius the Monkey!!!
I really don't care about the cover. That is not a big deal to me. I think it is the white that I don't like. I also don't think that is what the final seat will look like.
Did anyone notice that the headrest seems to move like a vehicle headrest? That is what it looks like. I bet this one is going to be expensive....
ZephyrBlue
08-26-2008, 10:41 PM
wow, that is freaking ugly. the design is nice but it reminds me of an institutional seat like the old Cosco infant seats that hospitals gave out for free.
UlrikeDG
08-27-2008, 12:10 AM
I think the seat is ugly, too, but I think it might look better in the vehicle. Maybe? It's too boxy for me; I prefer curves, and I'm not a huge fan of brown/tan car seats. I'd like to see it in a better color (red, blue) before making a final judgment on exactly how ugly it is. ;)
Also, ugly won't stop me from getting one if I think it's the best seat for my kids. They all said the Olli was very comfortable, so that doesn't concern me at all.
skaterbabscpst
08-27-2008, 12:22 AM
it could be the ugliest seat on the planet, but if it's tall enough to keep my boys boostered for a few more years (preventing the need for a new car) I don't care. :twocents:
hipmaman
08-27-2008, 12:29 AM
I don't mind the shape (ummm, love the old squarish Volvo of the '90s, the Honda Civic hatchback of the '80s, square-toe shoes, lol), but man it better has more cover than beige - does not go with my grey Ody interior :) It looks like it would fit right on top of the captain chair without much wasted space.
Michael/Clek can tell me when, where and how much and I'll have my 7 and 9 yrs old kiddos model it out right away ;)
I can't wait to see out it fits!
April
08-27-2008, 02:47 AM
My first thought was that the picture was something out of Classicseats' album!
I'm waiting for answers before I decide whether I like it or not. Michael....where are you.
natysr
08-27-2008, 07:52 AM
My first thought was that the picture was something out of Classicseats' album!
I'm waiting for answers before I decide whether I like it or not. Michael....where are you.
I had similar thoughts. And I was thinking wow, when this thing starts hitting craigs list, how many overly zealous people will start emailing the poster and reprimanding them about selling expired seats. :p
Tyler'sMom1117
08-27-2008, 08:15 AM
I have to believe that is just an early prototype picture. The Olli seats are all so cute, there is no way this is the final version. I like how it is shaped. I think it will fit my big boy really well. It is just the white part that I don't like.
Wow, I missed a lot in the last 24 hours. Firstly, I'm not sure how that photo hit the net. That color is NOT a production color. We will have a brown seat, but not tan.
I'm wondering if the feedback I'm reading is mostly because of the tan cover, or the seat overall :confused:
Here's an ad for oobr that will be in a few trade magazines this month.
ginny4
08-27-2008, 09:13 AM
the darker brown is MUCH nicer than the tan. the thing that would sell me on this is if the belt guides are SUPER HIGH. do you happen to know the torso measurement (the seat to the belt guide)
sirrahn
08-27-2008, 09:16 AM
Wow, I missed a lot in the last 24 hours. Firstly, I'm not sure how that photo hit the net. That color is NOT a production color. We will have a brown seat, but not tan.
I'm wondering if the feedback I'm reading is mostly because of the tan cover, or the seat overall :confused:
Here's an ad for oobr that will be in a few trade magazines this month.
That's a way better picture especially once I zoomed all the way in. I do think the white shell is what's making us think it looks weird. I can't think of any recent car seats that have had white shells so it really stands out.
That said, as long as it's not astronomically expensive, my 5 yr old will be getting a pink (well, that's what I'm guessing she'll choose) one:love: We love our Olli and her Parkway is about to drive me batty with the belt falling out of the guide and it's tipping over:p
ETA is that a cupholder I see on the far side? I really like the cargo thingy on the Olli as most other cupholders on seats are pretty useless and let the cup tip over. I hope the Oobr's is deep enough to be secure.
the darker brown is MUCH nicer than the tan. the thing that would sell me on this is if the belt guides are SUPER HIGH. do you happen to know the torso measurement (the seat to the belt guide)
about 21". I stress the about part. I don't have the specs with me right now, but that's what I think they are. We have spent a ton of time on belt path development and think that we will have great belt fit, just like olli, but with the added security of a shoulder belt guide.
Thank you
That's a way better picture especially once I zoomed all the way in. I do think the white shell is what's making us think it looks weird. I can't think of any recent car seats that have had white shells so it really stands out.
That's what we we're going for.
ETA is that a cupholder I see on the far side? I really like the cargo thingy on the Olli as most other cupholders on seats are pretty useless and let the cup tip over. I hope the Oobr's is deep enough to be secure.
Yup. The cupholder is removable, can be placed on either side, and will also be available separately. We had a cup holder engineer (I couldn't believe they existed either) consult with us on the best possible dimensions and shapes for the cupholder. We wanted to take the versatility of cargo-thingy on olli and improve upon it even more.
skaterbabscpst
08-27-2008, 09:39 AM
Thanks, Michael!
joolsplus3
08-27-2008, 09:44 AM
Better to have an ugly picture leak than a super cute one. That way we can be pleasantly surprised rather than disappointed when we finally see the real thing :)
That's a way better picture especially once I zoomed all the way in.
I just want to quickly point out that the seat in this photo is a prototype. So some of the fit and finish is not as good as it will be in a production seat. We pride ourselves on the quality of our materials and the fit and finish of our seats.
Thanks
ginny4
08-27-2008, 09:52 AM
21in is good. it will give people choices for tall boosters. i'll be interested in seeing more about the oobr. thanks
Gypsy
08-27-2008, 10:18 AM
I need to see some kids in it before I make a decision on appearance.
I have a lot (10 kids 2-10 years old) of kids who I could put in it and take pics, I'd love to be a product tester!
I need to see some kids in it before I make a decision on appearance.
I have a lot (10 kids 2-10 years old) of kids who I could put in it and take pics, I'd love to be a product tester!
I agree, I want to see kids in it.
I want to be a tester too!
thepeach80
08-27-2008, 10:27 AM
Lol, now we all want to be testers! I only have 1 kid who would be apprpriate for it, but I know lots of others...;)
I want to see the monkey print! The brown is better, but the white will take some time getting used to seeing. I'll be excited to start seeing these come in to checks when released, but I won't count on it. Booster use is sad when you only have to be in them till 6. :(
classicseats
08-27-2008, 11:37 AM
My first thought was that the picture was something out of Classicseats' album!
I'm waiting for answers before I decide whether I like it or not. Michael....where are you.
Finally! Retro seats are in. If they make one with a vinyl cover, I'm there! Brown Vinyl I hope!
finleysmommy
08-27-2008, 11:49 AM
Yikes! Hideous!
finleysmommy
08-27-2008, 11:52 AM
Wow, I missed a lot in the last 24 hours. Firstly, I'm not sure how that photo hit the net. That color is NOT a production color. We will have a brown seat, but not tan.
I'm wondering if the feedback I'm reading is mostly because of the tan cover, or the seat overall :confused:
Here's an ad for oobr that will be in a few trade magazines this month.
Okay, wow. Didn't see this new pic. That looks 10 million times better!!
Okay, wow. Didn't see this new pic. That looks 10 million times better!!
whew :thumbsup:
Amazing how a color change can change one's perception.
Mommyto2
08-27-2008, 12:15 PM
I persoanlly don't care for the white shell, but I still interested in this seat. DD has awhile before she outgrows her Radian and wont be rerady for a booster full time for another 18ish months so I should have a lot of time to see kids in it. If it will work for our future 3 across situation and I think I will be sold, ugly white shell and all. I am hoping that I will like the look of it much better when I see it in person. :)
scatterbunny
08-27-2008, 01:50 PM
The more I look at it, the more I like it...white shell and all. :p
TerisBoys
08-27-2008, 02:00 PM
It looks like Parkway met Olli(?)
I think I like it. But I'm with Lisa - I'd have to try it and try my picky ones in it before deciding for sure.
:whistle: I've got 3 boys that SHOULD fit in it if it has 21" belt-guides. Another offer to product test :)
Heather98012
08-27-2008, 02:26 PM
Am I the only one here who loved the white shell right off the bat? It reminds me of the Boon products (esp. their super cool, lust inducing highchair!).
I love it. Like I said, I adore the Boon, Ikea, Volvo minimalist look. I can see this booster in about a gagillion Volvos, Saabs, & Mercedes' in Seattle. :love: it Clek!!
bubbaray
08-27-2008, 02:43 PM
Thanks Michael.
Hmmm, I'm not loving the white shell -- I'd prefer black or grey or a dark color of some sort. White really makes it stick out, KWIM?
And, I have to say I'm disappointed that the pics so far only show solid covers. IMO, one of Clek's market niche's are the adorable covers -- not characters like Graco does on its boosters, but not boring/blah solids.
Please bring out pink camo, leopard, zebra and a black shell! :)
ETA: another (Canadian!) offer to product test -- DDs' daycare would have a lot of different kiddos to try in it. Plus, we have the new BC booster seat law....
finleysmommy
08-27-2008, 02:48 PM
Am I the only one here who loved the white shell right off the bat? It reminds me of the Boon products (esp. their super cool, lust inducing highchair!).
I love it. Like I said, I adore the Boon, Ikea, Volvo minimalist look. I can see this booster in about a gagillion Volvos, Saabs, & Mercedes' in Seattle. :love: it Clek!!
I also liked the white shell. I don't care for the light tan cover but it looks so much cuter with the brown. I'm excited to see that there are several colors being considered!
Sorry everyone. I'll be without computer access for about a week. Sorry for the bad timing, but I wanted to let you all know I wasn't avoiding you. Keep the questions coming and I'll answer as many as I can when I return.
Thank you
orangemnms
08-27-2008, 03:13 PM
I love the white shell. Thinking past aesthetics, it won't absorb heat thus making it cooler in the summer for those of us who live in 100+ climates a large portion of the year! I don't mind Paul Frank, and would choose monkeys over a solid color seat, but have you tried hitting up Ed Hardy? Cause I would be ALL OVER that, LOL. :whistle:
loufrando
08-27-2008, 03:26 PM
So is the seat/backless portion exactly the same as the Olli (excluding the obvious cargo-thingy/cupholder difference)? Is this an Olli base with a rockin back attached to it? Or is the bottom different in design in some way from the Olli?
Heather98012
08-27-2008, 03:32 PM
but have you tried hitting up Ed Hardy? Cause I would be ALL OVER that, LOL. :whistle:
LOL....not my style, but that would be a pretty kick ass seat!!
dukerocks
08-27-2008, 03:36 PM
who is ed hardy?
orangemnms
08-27-2008, 03:42 PM
http://www.donedhardy.com/ :love:
lodonal65
08-27-2008, 03:51 PM
I love the white shell. Thinking past aesthetics, it won't absorb heat thus making it cooler in the summer for those of us who live in 100+ climates a large portion of the year! I don't mind Paul Frank, and would choose monkeys over a solid color seat, but have you tried hitting up Ed Hardy? Cause I would be ALL OVER that, LOL. :whistle:
DUDE! I am so with you on that!
I'd :love: an Ed Hardy seat!!
skaterbabscpst
08-27-2008, 03:53 PM
DUDE! I am so with you on that!
I'd :love: an Ed Hardy seat!!
I want Amy Brown. :D
Michi
08-27-2008, 04:04 PM
The first thing I though of was...it's an IKEA carseat!
It definitely has that clean/minimalist look. I like it!
tanyaandallie
08-27-2008, 04:07 PM
So is the seat/backless portion exactly the same as the Olli (excluding the obvious cargo-thingy/cupholder difference)? Is this an Olli base with a rockin back attached to it? Or is the bottom different in design in some way from the Olli?
The bottom looks very much like the Olli to me!
I like the dark brown MUCH better.
scatterbunny
08-27-2008, 05:11 PM
I want Amy Brown. :D
ME, TOO!!! :love: Amy Brown art would sell boosters to soooo many families with girls!
skaterbabscpst
08-27-2008, 05:25 PM
heck yeah!
for those not familiar with Amy Brown:
http://www.amybrownart.com/
CDNTech
08-27-2008, 05:52 PM
I'll be a Canadian tester for you... I'm even a tech (does that get me pushed up the line of testers?). ;) :D
I'm not loving the white shell... just because I see it getting dirty fairly quickly, but I'll reserve judgement until I can see it in person. I'm guessing the white shell has something to do with stronger plastic?
snowbird25ca
08-27-2008, 06:06 PM
I really like the newer picture, and I see there are a lot of rich and deep color choices - I think the rich/deep colors will make the white shell much less obvious. Overall I really like the shape of the seat and it looks comfortable and supportive. It was the white shell that threw me off at first, but from the sounds of it it's purposeful to make it stick out. I think it'll succeed in sticking out. (In a good way. ;))
hipmaman
08-27-2008, 06:10 PM
White shell/black cover (and back armrests)/red guides. Sharp, eh ;) Come to think about it, if covers are all solid, we need a red cover!
bubbaray
08-27-2008, 06:16 PM
White shell/black cover (and back armrests)/red guides. Sharp, eh ;) Come to think about it, if covers are all solid, we need a red cover!
Hmmm, a Canada Day cover. That would be kinda cute. They could embroider a white maple leave somewhere....
I'm still not loving the white shell, though. I just think it will stick out too much against my navy blue exterior, dark grey interior Ody. I could be convinced if it came in Pink Camo, though....
I'm at least a year away from needing a BPB, though. That should give Clek some time to meet my design specs, LOL.
Defrost
08-27-2008, 07:06 PM
I have a lot (10 kids 2-10 years old) of kids who I could put in it and take pics, I'd love to be a product tester!
And as her co-tester, I'd be more than happy to write a full-length review. :D
I like it, especially in the not-tan color - it definitely stands out!
jubgulia
08-27-2008, 07:16 PM
Ooh, the bolder colors will look nicer I think. I like the white shell fine. First thing it reminded me of my computer casing. My only worries would be that it would show dirt or yellow in the sun or something like that.
Please, fit in a 3 across in a Toyota Corolla... :whistle:
LISmama810
08-27-2008, 07:50 PM
I like it. It looks more like an actual SEAT, and looks like it has plenty of shoulder room.
If you need a west-coast tester, let me know :D
(I think they might need to start a lottery.)
Heather98012
08-27-2008, 07:59 PM
On a side note, dh just came in here (he got home from work early) & I showed him the pic. He said "that's cool...it's the "it" look right now." So there ya have it from a male's point of view!
vonfirmath
08-27-2008, 08:20 PM
I see white, and the first thing I think is "How often will I have to clean that?" That's why I avoid white in just about anything with kids!
hipmaman
08-27-2008, 08:39 PM
On a side note, dh just came in here (he got home from work early) & I showed him the pic. He said "that's cool...it's the "it" look right now." So there ya have it from a male's point of view!
Which makes me wonder if there were any female engineers on the Oobr design team :) or if there was any female/mom input. Off topic but just curious
Heather98012
08-27-2008, 08:50 PM
Which makes me wonder if there were any female engineers on the Oobr design team :) or if there was any female/mom input. Off topic but just curious
Dunno....but I'm a woman & I love it! :thumbsup:
anh0371
09-01-2008, 08:53 PM
I really like the design. Colorwise, I would prefer something dark that will blend in with my black interior. When is it going to be available??
Tyler'sMom1117
09-03-2008, 04:12 PM
I'm not sure I like it. I love the shape, just not the white plastic.
http://www.magnaclek.com/us/english/default.aspx
scatterbunny
09-03-2008, 04:16 PM
I can't wait to get my hands on one! :cool: The white shell is growing on me, though black would blend into more car interiors, IMO.
Tyler'sMom1117
09-03-2008, 04:20 PM
I wish we could click on the colors. I think the blue might look nice with the white shell. I can't wait to try it out.
crunchierthanthou
09-03-2008, 04:26 PM
I wish we could click on the colors. I think the blue might look nice with the white shell.
yeah, or the pink or green.
MomToEliEm
09-03-2008, 04:30 PM
How does this booster adjust? Does the headrest rise up and down, or is it the entire back that moves? I will be interested to see this booster in action and read some reviews on it.
TerisBoys
09-03-2008, 04:37 PM
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=56489&highlight=oobr
More info there including responses from Clek.
joolsplus3
09-03-2008, 05:12 PM
I suspect that having one of these will make up for the utter misery I'll feel when my Parkway expires.... :love:
Girly_Qs
09-03-2008, 06:02 PM
Well, I too worry about scuffs/marks/yellowing on the white, but I do like the minimalist vibe overall.
My question is this: anyone have any estimates/ballpark on cost?
This is DEFINITELY going to be on our short list . . ..
hsjwmom
09-03-2008, 08:55 PM
I love that it will have the rigid LATCH, but that is one SERIOUSLY ugly booster.
Just my :twocents:
:p
ETA: Yeah, I'm waiting to see it IRL. I don't really NEED a new booster, yet. DD had to ride in her BG for a while until I got around to washing her Regent's cover. Let's just say she was THRILLED to be back in her Regent today.
lovinwaves
09-03-2008, 09:00 PM
Thou shalt not judge till seen in real life :o
Jenny, I wonder if Segals will have it. I so need to play with it!
Heather98012
09-04-2008, 02:39 AM
As Paris Hilton would say "Loves it....that's hot!" :D
mimieliza
09-04-2008, 02:44 AM
You must have lower anchors in your car to use this, right?
scatterbunny
09-04-2008, 02:52 AM
You must have lower anchors in your car to use this, right?
I'm assuming it'll be like the Olli, rigid LATCH is a selling point and a big feature, but not required for use. Don't quote me on that, the Oobr could very well be different, but with the Olli, it's fine to use it without LATCHing it.
kate4478
09-04-2008, 09:40 AM
i like it. i think it's very modern looking! i might just have to get rid of my sr/c & bg.
dhardawa
09-04-2008, 10:33 AM
I love that it will have the rigid LATCH, but that is one SERIOUSLY ugly booster.
I have to agree with you on the ugliness. It looks like it jumped out of the 1970's. It is really boxy and looks uncomfortable.
magoose
09-04-2008, 10:38 AM
I have to agree with you on the ugliness. It looks like it jumped out of the 1970's. It is really boxy and looks uncomfortable.
:yeahthat:
Ugly and uncomfortable looking.
Anna
scatterbunny
09-04-2008, 11:13 AM
I see how the white shell could look like a throwback to the 70s, but how does it look uncomfortable? To me, it looks like a quality upholstered vehicle seat (the fabric/padded parts); it doesn't appear super-cushy, but neither does the Olli, and it's uber-comfy, according to my dd. :p
crunchierthanthou
09-04-2008, 11:24 AM
I see how the white shell could look like a throwback to the 70s, but how does it look uncomfortable? To me, it looks like a quality upholstered vehicle seat (the fabric/padded parts); it doesn't appear super-cushy, but neither does the Olli, and it's uber-comfy, according to my dd. :p
but it's not contoured at all. padding a box doesn't make it comfortable. Not that debating how comfy it looks is going to do any good. we'll have to wait until we get our hands on it and have some reviews from actual use to make any judgments.
However, I'm not counting on the brown to look any cuter in real life. isn't that what marketing materials are supposed to do? make it look the best it possibly can? :p
thepeach80
09-04-2008, 11:29 AM
I want to see the monkeys...
scatterbunny
09-04-2008, 11:47 AM
Crunchy, that's my point: the Olli isn't contoured at all, and looks pretty uncomfortable at first glance. However, the design of the seat under the cover is great, nicely shaped, well-padded. It looks flat and hard, but it's not.
I'm not going to trash-talk the Oobr until some kids actually test-sit it and proclaim it uncomfortable. :p
\I'm not going to trash-talk the Oobr until some kids actually test-sit it and proclaim it uncomfortable. :p
:yeahthat:
joolsplus3
09-04-2008, 12:44 PM
Yeah, it's not a padded box, that's the thing..that's what every OTHER booster is :p (except the Start)...this a dense square of foam that's really comfy stuff on top of EPP or EPS and a little bit of structural metal bits... it just happens to be the shape of a box, lol. I think it's purpose is to appeal to people who don't want big overstuffed chair looking things in their backseat...those of us who like THOSE have a plethora of choices already ;)
jen_nah
09-04-2008, 01:42 PM
You must have lower anchors in your car to use this, right?
Actually it works just fine with high up LATCH points too. Here is the Olli in my Tahoe which had hooks higher up on the seat back.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/jen_nah/carseats/IMG_1921.jpg
jen_nah
09-04-2008, 01:45 PM
I so can't wait to see it in person. I too am not sure about the white shell esp with having an all black car interior but I love the design. I hate the SK Montaray but want a LATCHable highback booster for K1.
Tyler'sMom1117
09-04-2008, 03:36 PM
Yeah, the Olli doesn't look like it would be comfy, but every kid who uses ours loves it. Even my 13 year old said it was more comfortable than riding on our vehicle seats. The whole reason I bought the Olli vs. other boosters was the comfort factor.;)
CPSDarren
09-04-2008, 05:41 PM
We'll be meeting with Clek at the ABC Kids show this weekend. A review should be forthcoming once a sample is available for evaluation! Stay tuned to www.carseatblog.com for photos and tidbits.
jen_nah
09-04-2008, 09:48 PM
We'll be meeting with Clek at the ABC Kids show this weekend. A review should be forthcoming once a sample is available for evaluation! Stay tuned to www.carseatblog.com for photos and tidbits.
Darren,
Please ask if the shell will be available in a black version.
bubbaray
09-04-2008, 11:39 PM
Darren,
Please ask if the shell will be available in a black version.
Oh yes. Please. The white is hideous. Tell Michael it will get lost in a snowbank up here in Canada if I take my seats out to shuffle them around ....
Also, please ask if cute covers (specifically pink camo, leopard and zebra) will be available! :)
Kat_Momof3
09-05-2008, 12:17 PM
I do think it looks a little fugly, especially compared to how good the Monterey and Monarch look, but I'm wanting to see specs and get some kids to test it out for comfort before I pass judgement.
I have to agree I'd pick safety and comfort over looks.
Besides, it's probably the prototype and I'm guessing there will be other cover options.
scatterbunny
09-05-2008, 12:32 PM
I do think it looks a little fugly, especially compared to how good the Monterey and Monarch look, but I'm wanting to see specs and get some kids to test it out for comfort before I pass judgement.
And you know what's funny, I think the Monterey and Monarch are kind of ugly, I don't like how top heavy they look. :p So, to me, design-wise, the Oobr looks better. I just don't like the white shell very much.
Besides, it's probably the prototype and I'm guessing there will be other cover options.
I believe Michael from Clek said the white shell is here to stay, but don't quote me on that. There will definitely be other cover options, they are shown in post #30 in this thread. :)
joolsplus3
09-05-2008, 12:46 PM
And you know what's funny, I think the Monterey and Monarch are kind of ugly, I don't like how top heavy they look. :p So, to me, design-wise, the Oobr looks better. I just don't like the white shell very much.
I believe Michael from Clek said the white shell is here to stay, but don't quote me on that. There will definitely be other cover options, they are shown in post #30 in this thread. :)
I agree...the Monarch and Monterey haven't ever made it onto my shopping list...maybe if they were prettier... :rolleyes::whistle:
The Starriser Comfy and Roadster had white shells...the SRC did change to charcoal after a time, but I don't think we all gasped in horror or complained about it being dirty because the shell was white :confused: I guess we are all just accustomed to certain carseat 'looks' and it's hard to accept new looks? <shrug>.
I am with you. I don't like the look of the Manarch and Monterey, but I was going to buy a Monterey, because of how it fit Tyler.
Jeanum
09-05-2008, 01:47 PM
I do admit the Oobr pictured reminds me of the tan vinyl interior of my very first car. But function over form is my usual motto. :) I also think we're overlooking the fact that many of our beloved Britax convertible shells are white or off-white in color. ;)
I guess we are all just accustomed to certain carseat 'looks' and it's hard to accept new looks? <shrug>.
I agree. And to answer the debate. . . the shell is not available in just white :)
I wanted to give you a quick overview of one of the features that makes oobr so special and why we're very proud of our newest seat.
:D Introducing the elemental safety system :D
jubgulia
09-05-2008, 02:34 PM
Yay for options! :thumbsup:
joolsplus3
09-05-2008, 02:36 PM
And to answer the debate. . . the shell is not available in just white :)
:thumbsup::love:
remken
09-05-2008, 02:46 PM
I actually like the white shell. :) But then I don't care if my seats blend in or not.
scatterbunny
09-05-2008, 02:49 PM
And to answer the debate. . . the shell is not available in just white :)
Yay! :D
I wanted to give you a quick overview of one of the features that makes oobr so special and why we're very proud of our newest seat.
:D Introducing the elemental safety system :D
I like it from this angle. :cool: What makes magnesium so special?
Yay! :D
I like it from this angle. :cool: What makes magnesium so special?
I've lifted this excerpt from our supplier's website
Why Magnesium?
Magnesium Properties
Abundant
The 8th most abundant element (by weight) in the earth’s crust, making up more than 2% of the earth’s crust
Lighter and Stiffer
33% lighter than aluminum with similar structural characteristics
Ten to 20 times higher stiffness at similar plastics density
Preferred Characteristics
Highly repeatable and reproducible, creating precision, net shape or near net shape components due to minimal shrinkage in the metal molding process
Maintains flatness better than plastic
Improved heat dissipation, especially when fin construction is added to the component
Has the potential to replace plastics, aluminum, and steel in the future
Environmentally Friendly
Environmentally friendly process, with no odors, no emissions, and no danger to the environment
Recyclable and can also be re-melted
jubgulia
09-05-2008, 02:58 PM
Wow, that is awesome! Thanks so much for posting!
scatterbunny
09-05-2008, 03:00 PM
AWESOME info, thank you. :cool: I just got off the phone with my dh, who works in the metal manufacturing industry, and he said a lot of the same things, especially emphasizing that it's lighter weight than aluminum with similar structural properties.
AWESOME info, thank you. :cool: I just got off the phone with my dh, who works in the metal manufacturing industry, and he said a lot of the same things, especially emphasizing that it's lighter weight than aluminum with similar structural properties.
It's magnesium's rigidity over plastic that's the big benefit. Almost all seats are made of plastic, and even the few seats which contain metal components only use them as a frame, so their plastic components will still likely deform in an accident.
scatterbunny
09-05-2008, 03:17 PM
It's magnesium's rigidity over plastic that's the big benefit. Almost all seats are made of plastic, and even the few seats which contain metal components only use them as a frame, so their plastic components will still likely deform in an accident.
Gotcha. :thumbsup: I was thinking about the Recaro Start, with its aluminum frame, and the Graco Nautilus, with the steel frame. Those are heavy seats. It'll be nice to have a very strong (non-plastic) seat without all the added weight of steel or aluminum.
hipmaman
09-05-2008, 03:48 PM
Michael, this is rather geeky, but gotta ask :)
The Mg frame is around the perimeter of the seat back or the entire seatback? What's the usefulness life?
Heather98012
09-05-2008, 03:54 PM
I love the white, but yay for choices too!
And the new diagram showing the back makes me lust for this even more. Hhmmmm...maybe I can ditch my Frontiers, get a new harnessed seat & then the Oobr when I need it. :whistle:
tanyaandallie
09-05-2008, 03:58 PM
I've lifted this excerpt from our supplier's website
Why Magnesium?
Magnesium Properties
Abundant
The 8th most abundant element (by weight) in the earth’s crust, making up more than 2% of the earth’s crust
Lighter and Stiffer
33% lighter than aluminum with similar structural characteristics
Ten to 20 times higher stiffness at similar plastics density
Preferred Characteristics
Highly repeatable and reproducible, creating precision, net shape or near net shape components due to minimal shrinkage in the metal molding process
Maintains flatness better than plastic
Improved heat dissipation, especially when fin construction is added to the component
Has the potential to replace plastics, aluminum, and steel in the future
Environmentally Friendly
Environmentally friendly process, with no odors, no emissions, and no danger to the environment
Recyclable and can also be re-melted
LOVE that it's evironmentall friendly!!!
TechnoGranola
09-05-2008, 04:04 PM
Personally, I LOVE the white. It would look great in our vehicle where black is almost not existent, and grey would clash. Our interior is taupe, a greyish light brown, which means straight brown and straight grey clash!. White's about the only complementary option for us! Let's hope that they still make the white when DD is booster age in 4or 5 years! :D
bubbaray
09-05-2008, 04:13 PM
I agree. And to answer the debate. . . the shell is not available in just white :)
Yahoo! :) I'll take one with a black or grey shell, please, LOL.
Michael, will the cute Clek covers (pink camo, animal prints) be available for Oobr???
TIA
TerisBoys
09-05-2008, 04:16 PM
Michael, this is rather geeky, but gotta ask :)
The Mg frame is around the perimeter of the seat back or the entire seatback? What's the usefulness life?
Tam - you're not the only geek. I was studying the picture trying to figure that out too :)
Michael, this is rather geeky, but gotta ask :)
The Mg frame is around the perimeter of the seat back or the entire seatback? What's the usefulness life?
The Magnesium frame is the entire back panel.
Another advantage of the magnesium is that you can create a very rigid frame that is also very thin.
soooo, oobr is (I think) the narrowest booster on the market, but still has lots of interior space (due to the thin frame). In fact, I think oobr is over an inch narrower than the parkway!
Darren will bring his tape measure and camera to ABC and give you all the scoop!
CDNTech
09-05-2008, 04:57 PM
In fact, I think oobr is over an inch narrower than the parkway!
Now that gets me excited... white shell or no white shell. ;) :D
ETA: I'd also like to see a picture of the head rest fully extended... I'm wondering how much of a gap is left behind the child between the seat back and the head restraint. Is it still comfy that way?
bubbaray
09-05-2008, 04:59 PM
In fact, I think oobr is over an inch narrower than the parkway!
Ooooh, I'm getting far to excited about this seat! :)
scatterbunny
09-05-2008, 05:23 PM
The overall width and ease of buckling next to another seat are HUGE for me, I can't wait to hear those specifics (says she who has a Parkway on the way :p ).
Mommyto2
09-05-2008, 05:38 PM
The Magnesium frame is the entire back panel.
Another advantage of the magnesium is that you can create a very rigid frame that is also very thin.
soooo, oobr is (I think) the narrowest booster on the market, but still has lots of interior space (due to the thin frame). In fact, I think oobr is over an inch narrower than the parkway!
Darren will bring his tape measure and camera to ABC and give you all the scoop!
Wow! That sounds great. I am excited to see it. I can't wait to see more pictures. DD still have about 12-18 months before she will move to a booster, but we will need a narrow one in the future.
Gypsy
09-05-2008, 05:48 PM
Now I am getting excited about the Oobr!
jubgulia
09-05-2008, 05:49 PM
:D That is exactly what I wanted to hear.
ok folks, I'm off to Vegas.
Wish us luck :)
It's a really crazy week and a culmination of over a year's worth of work. Hopefully oobr lives up to all of your expectations.
mommyto4
09-05-2008, 07:03 PM
Anoxiously waiting for a report. (I know I have a long wait).
tanyaandallie
09-05-2008, 10:44 PM
Can't wait to hear some reviews! Not that I am actually in need of a booster right now. But I can still be excited, right?
smurf
09-05-2008, 10:59 PM
I really like this seat!
I kind of like the white, kind of retro-futuristic. Hope it's also coming to Canada soon. Now, if it's 16 inches wide it'll be THE perfect booster seat!
keri1292
09-05-2008, 11:04 PM
I dunno. I'm pretty sure this is my top choice for full time booster. LATCH, solid frame, awesome SIP, narrow and cute covers (how many quality HBB have cute covers???). Dd will approve, I'm sure. I can't wait for the reviews. :love:
Wineaux
09-05-2008, 11:33 PM
And when you get back, get to work on a magnesium shell convertible dammit!
The Oobr is tres cool looking. Very nice minimalistic Scandanavian design. It makes me think of all the Stokke, Boon, and Baby Bjorn gear.
Did you folks do extra Side Impact testing when using both the LATCH and L/S belt install together like Jane did with the Indy? Did you find similar results?
QuassEE
09-05-2008, 11:51 PM
Depending on Michael's timeline, I think I'd rather have an Oobr versus the Monterey. I really want to hear about the Paul Frank cover when you're back from the show, Michael!
-N.
(I'm a fan :bow: of "clek" on Facebook..join us!)
Oh me too, that looks awesome!
I really like this seat!
I kind of like the white, kind of retro-futuristic. Hope it's also coming to Canada soon. Now, if it's 16 inches wide it'll be THE perfect booster seat!
Well, I guess we're THE perfect booster seat then :D
I'll let Darren fill you in on the rest with his review.
momto2boysinOnt
09-06-2008, 06:20 AM
WOW! I was offline yesterday, and look what I missed! I was really hoping that Oobr would be narrow and light. Looks like I got both. Now, dare I hope it is easy to buckle and will be available in Canada by the 1st of December????? We have a trip booked starting Dec 4th. I'd love to have a booster for DS1 before then.
hipmaman
09-06-2008, 10:17 AM
Now, dare I hope it is easy to buckle and will be available in Canada by the 1st of December????? We have a trip booked starting Dec 4th. I'd love to have a booster for DS1 before then.
I'm hoping Allport would have more Canadian-specific info after the meeting with Clek/Magna this week. Watch the Cdn & Int'l forum for info.
Kat_Momof3
09-06-2008, 04:44 PM
edited because I read the last page or two...
OMG... now I'm SUPER excited.
but I still want to see dimensions.
I popped RUthie into the Monterey to test fit and I just don't like it for her. She's SOO much narrower in the shoulders (as you can see in my siggy pic with her next to her brother and cousin) that the belt has a hard time staying where it should be. If she just leans her head onto the headwing in the Monterey, her shoulder pops out from under the belt (she was asleep, so I was able to move her head and really get a good test)
if I can get it with a grey shell to coordinate with the Monterey, I would definitely go with this at least until she's a lot bigger... then I can figure if Jeffrey would use this backless and pass the Monterey down to her, or use his Monterey backless and keep her in this.
It also looks (from the avatar pic that Michael has... I brought up it full size in his profile) like it will fit kids built like Ruthie, so I'm just hoping it will, because I would honestly LOVE a reason to pass the Nautilus to my niece for her girls when Ruthie outgrows its harness if there is a really good latchable booster of a good price)
However, the price is a big thing for me, because otherwise, the Nautilus will make a better booster for her than the Monterey.
momto2boysinOnt
09-06-2008, 04:47 PM
I'm hoping Allport would have more Canadian-specific info after the meeting with Clek/Magna this week. Watch the Cdn & Int'l forum for info.
I'm watching! :D It's so exciting knowing that a Canadian company is bringing out what looks to be an awesome booster. For once, we may not be waiting months and months and months after a seat is released in the US!
elle7715
09-06-2008, 06:23 PM
Hmmm. It looks very sturdy. It really does look like it could be part of the vehicle seat, which could be nice if your kids are older and would like it to blend in a bit more. I actually think the white/pink and white/blue combo would look pretty cool. I'd prefer a leafy green more than the pea soup green (it's hard to tell from the picture). But what would happen to the white after a few summers in the hot car and sun beating through the windows?
crunchierthanthou
09-06-2008, 09:28 PM
just putting it over here that the Paul Frank Julius oobr is up on carseatblog.com (http://carseatblog.com/?p=150) (including a shot of the head piece extended).
hipmaman
09-06-2008, 09:39 PM
Off to read more!
QuassEE
09-06-2008, 09:47 PM
The headrest bars are a tad oogly.. but I have to say that Michael and folks "got styyyyle" with that Julius monkey. My daughter loves it :) Hopefully we're one of the first Canadians to get the chance at one! Heck, hopefully the cover is actually released in Canada..
-Nicole.
scout
09-06-2008, 09:49 PM
just putting it over here that the Paul Frank Julius oobr is up on carseatblog.com (http://carseatblog.com/?p=150) (including a shot of the head piece extended).
OMG -- I didn't expect to think much of the Julius oobr, but I love it!
LISmama810
09-06-2008, 09:51 PM
That Paul Frank seat is the cutest darn booster I've ever seen. Hands down.
keri1292
09-06-2008, 10:29 PM
It shall be mine! Er, dd's. :o
persnickity
09-06-2008, 10:46 PM
Just wanted to say I think this seat is gorgeous! I was surprised to see so much negativity, since I loved it on first sight. The monkey cover is super cute, too. Can't wait to see the other colorways and hear some reports on comfort, ease of use, etc!
CDNTech
09-07-2008, 10:06 AM
The only thing that still concerns me is the 6 inch gap between the top of the seatback and the head restraint.
I'm waiting to see a child test it out and tell me if the seat is comfy even with that gap there. :o
Otherwise, it looks great. :)
TerisBoys
09-07-2008, 10:14 AM
The only thing that still concerns me is the 6 inch gap between the top of the seatback and the head restraint.
I'm waiting to see a child test it out and tell me if the seat is comfy even with that gap there. :o
Otherwise, it looks great. :)
The Turbo, Monterey, Parkway and Vivo all have headrests that adjust up from the back and kids don't complain about them. They essentially have no support in that area either.
IMO, it's like a car's headrest - they're often mounted on 2 rods with a gap in between.
Kat_Momof3
09-07-2008, 10:16 AM
I think the seat looks a lot more appealing now that I've seen some measurements.
Not crazy about it only adjusting for height at the neck, though... I would have at least liked to see it adjust at the neck and at the bottom of the back like the Evenflo Big Kid Confidence.
However, it's looking superior to me compared to the Vivo/Vivo Light, the Turbobooster, and other boosters for smaller/skinnier/narrower booster riders.
I'm still hoping that Ruthie will take a good two years to outgrow the Nautilus harnesses, but I also know that she's already needing the top slots and she takes after Damian in growth, who has that lovely history of outgrowing the Regent at 6.5yrs, along with a longer torso than either of her brothers.
So I'm thinking ahead... I'm wanting to start planning... and having ruled out the Monterey for her for the forseeable future (she needs to get noticeably broader), I'm honestly thinking the Oobr or the Jane Indy Plus.
So, at this point, it looks like the Oobr will win out.
jen_nah
09-07-2008, 10:33 AM
I agree. And to answer the debate. . . the shell is not available in just white :)
YEA!!! Dh saw the white shell and said "That will clash in your black interior". I can't wait for it to hit the market.
Wineaux
09-07-2008, 10:40 AM
YEA!!! Dh saw the white shell and said "That will clash in your black interior". I can't wait for it to hit the market.
I know... What in the hell were those crazy piano manufacturers thinking when they put black keys next to white keys! The fashion world has never been the same... :whistle:
/wanders off humming the Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney song, "Ebony and Ivory."
Kat_Momof3
09-07-2008, 12:18 PM
only 16" wide!! omg... omg ... omg
what is the rule for latch bar spacing?
(reason is dh has a 2-door cobalt and I desperately want to keep my shortest kid in the middle as long as I can... where there is no built-in headrest)
If the oobr can latch into the center spot (I can measure if you need me to) of dh's 2-door cobalt, I will DEFINITELY be buying one for his car. (and I just saw that there will be a black cover... dh will LOVE LOVE LOVE clek if I can get him a black shell with black cover so that it totally matches his interior (though he'd settle with black and red, since the exterior is red))
scatterbunny
09-07-2008, 12:58 PM
The only thing that still concerns me is the 6 inch gap between the top of the seatback and the head restraint.
That's a small concern of mine, as well. I can't wait to be able to try my tall 7yo in it (18.5-19 inch torso).
Also, the seat bottom slopes at the knee; it doesn't look just like the Olli, which supported my dd's legs very well. I worry about the sloping, but hey, it can't be worse than the Parkway, and dd now proclaims that comfy (when she used to complain bitterly about the sloping/short seat bottom), so I'm not counting the Oobr out based on this, just slightly concerned, and withholding judgment until I can have my dd test-sit it.
Also, having such a tall child (and a vehicle with no rear headrests), I'll say that I do wish it adjusted even one inch taller.
The Turbo, Monterey, Parkway and Vivo all have headrests that adjust up from the back and kids don't complain about them. They essentially have no support in that area either.
That was my second thought, after initially being concerned about the big gap/rods. But there is one small difference-those others have a flat piece of plastic covered in thin fabric for the child's back to rest on. It's usually pretty level with the lower back portion of the seat.
IMO, it's like a car's headrest - they're often mounted on 2 rods with a gap in between.
That's what I'm telling myself, that it shouldn't really be a problem because it's just like vehicle headrests, and the design is similar to other boosters on the market.
However, with a vehicle headrest, the headrest part is so thick that there's a lot more space between the back of our head/neck and the metal rods. Also, a vehicle headrest doesn't adjust so tall that the metal rods are as long as the Oobr's metal rods.
With those two things combined (less space-horizontally-between the head/body and the metal rods, and, on the highest settings, longer rods-vertically), it's a little different than vehicle headrests, so I just wonder if any part of the child's body will come in contact with those rods. I don't think we'll be able to figure that out until we can get a tall kiddo in the seat. :p
what is the rule for latch bar spacing?
I'm assuming it needs to be used in spots with standard spacing, just like other rigid LATCH seats, because it's rigid LATCH. It won't flex to reach non-standard spaced anchors.
crunchierthanthou
09-07-2008, 01:00 PM
I'm assuming it needs to be used in spots with standard spacing, just like other rigid LATCH seats, because it's rigid LATCH. It won't flex to reach non-standard spaced anchors.
yeah, the rigid LATCH will almost certainly require standard spacing, which is 11". Lucky for you, the Cobalt has a dedicated set of lower anchors for the center position. and unlike other GM models of similar size (and even some a bit larger) they don't overlap at all and all three sets can be used at the same time. :)
Heather98012
09-07-2008, 10:08 PM
That Julius cover is about the cutest damn thing I have ever seen. I have always :love: Julius the monkey!
Hhhmmm....any idea on how to clean the cover?! ;)
crunchierthanthou
09-07-2008, 11:10 PM
Hhhmmm....any idea on how to clean the cover?! ;)
you might not need to. :p
Photos of more patterns, the magnesium shell and the super kyrpton water/stain resistant fabric coming soon to www.carseatblog.com.
tjham
09-08-2008, 02:05 AM
Wonder how much it will cost?
horsesitaly
09-08-2008, 10:27 AM
I know... What in the hell were those crazy piano manufacturers thinking when they put black keys next to white keys! The fashion world has never been the same... :whistle:
/wanders off humming the Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney song, "Ebony and Ivory."
And what with all those clashing zebras wandering around in Africa. And those black and white cows. LOL Oh wait, my CAR is black and white! I think the white shell would look totally cool. My car is white on the outside and black interior. The skurvy skull seats would look so cool, I'm just not that into skulls!
I'm waiting for the price on these before I get too excited, knowing how much the backless boosters are it seems the Oobr won't be in my (dh's) price range.
ETA what I really need for my 9 yo is a booger colored shell/cover, nuff said.
Kat_Momof3
09-08-2008, 10:50 AM
yeah, the rigid LATCH will almost certainly require standard spacing, which is 11". Lucky for you, the Cobalt has a dedicated set of lower anchors for the center position. and unlike other GM models of similar size (and even some a bit larger) they don't overlap at all and all three sets can be used at the same time. :)
yes, it does... which I LOVE, but also hate the center seat because (at least in the 2 door), it is narrow and set higher than the other two seats, so it's like a flat hump... you can put a seat on it, but getting it to fit without taking up too much of the seats on either side is tough.
16-17" is the MAX I can put there... henceforth why I am totally hating that the Radian doesn't install well with latch OR the seatbelt in the middle. It fits on the side seats, though.
I'm going to be brave here shortly and try again to put it in the middle.
the oobr goes taller than the FPSVB, even though it's only an inch, and having latch, won't tip as the FPSVB tends to do in highback mode as it gets toward the top setting. Yes, this is fixed by careful positioning, but a child climbing into it and then the child buckling himself/herself makes it want to slide a little on the slippery seat fabric.
So having the oobr fit the latch connectors would be ideal.
I'm going to measure the anchors, too...
snowbird25ca
09-08-2008, 12:28 PM
I really really like the look of the Oobr. And by the time dd is ready for a dedicated booster I'm sure we'll have lots of cover selection. ;)
Real kids will tell the tale, but I'm not too worried about comfort issues due to the rods. Clek has a history of helping design car interiors, so I suspect has a pretty good grasp on ergonomics. I'm sure this seat has been as well researched and planned as the others, and kids will find them comfy. :thumbsup:
I'm going to measure the anchors, too...
Given that it's a dedicated LATCH position with it's own set of anchors, that means it has to meet the standard of 11". So you can measure if you want, but it and all LATCH anchors in a seating spot with it's own dedicated anchors, will have an 11" spacing. :thumbsup:
hsjwmom
09-08-2008, 04:00 PM
WooHoo! Dh said he would be fine with it as long as it didn't cost more than the Monterrey...Now here's hoping for a good price! Thank goodness I have plenty of time before I need another booster.
Mama!
09-08-2008, 08:33 PM
Oh my gosh. I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED that Monkey booster. RIGHT NOW.
I want 2. :eek:They shall be our forever most wonderful favorite booster.
MONKEYS!! *runs in delight*
Kat_Momof3
09-08-2008, 08:35 PM
I haven't gotten to install it anyway... DH took his cobalt and decided to go out of town for work. UGH.
So I have the Radian in my closet, anyway.
I was going to measure because the Radian doesn't seem to fit right with latch... and it does fine with latch in my van and in the other seating positions (though not as well as in my van).
But I'll probably leave it... just hope the Oobr will not have the problem going in with latch that the Radian has.
Thanks for all of the awesome feedback.:D Feedback from our stores has been equally enthusiastic. I keep directing our stores to check out this site and read your feedback. And most of our retailers are familiar with this site and some even post here.
Now (drumroll please) for the pricing.
oobr will be $239.99 for the standard colors.
Paul Frank oobr's are $254.99
There are also 2 new Paul Frank olli patterns that will retail for $99.99.
It's a crazy week here and I'm trying to check out the site, but I don't have tons of time to post. Post any questions and I'll reply next week.
Thanks
LISmama810
09-08-2008, 10:33 PM
oobr will be $239.99 for the standard colors.
Paul Frank oobr's are $254.99
:jaw:
I guess I was expecting less than that.
I also guess my arm could be twisted.
Please show us the Paul Frank olli covers when you can.
Money, I need money!!! Can I be a tester?
bubbaray
09-08-2008, 10:39 PM
Now (drumroll please) for the pricing.
oobr will be $239.99 for the standard colors.
Paul Frank oobr's are $254.99
There are also 2 new Paul Frank olli patterns that will retail for $99.99.
It's a crazy week here and I'm trying to check out the site, but I don't have tons of time to post. Post any questions and I'll reply next week.
Thanks
:jaw:
That's a little rich for me for a non-harnessed booster.... What will they retail for in Canada? $500??
Gypsy
09-08-2008, 10:44 PM
I want to be a tester. PPPPPLLLEEEEAAAASEEEEE!!!
I have a 2 year, 33 pounder; 3 year 36 pounder; 6 year, 45 pounder; 7 year, 60 pounder; 8 year, 42 pounder; 9 year, 50 pounder; and more that might fit, a 10, and 12 year old that might fit.
I would gladly take tons of pics & write reviews with the help of Defrost - we can happily share a tester oobr.
safeinthecar
09-08-2008, 10:57 PM
I have a question for Michael.
Hearing that the Oobr fabric repels water, I am curious to know what the fabric is made of. My little girl is allergic to latex, and many fabrics that are water resistant contain natural rubber latex.
Edited to add: What about in the rubber on the top of the armrests?
Heather98012
09-08-2008, 11:14 PM
Hhhmmm.....while I could easily drop that for a booster, I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around that purchase price for a dedicated booster. But....with all the perks (lightweight, narrow, water repellant seat cover), I would likely buy it.
Did we ever hear the expiration date? Or did I just miss that?
gwenvet
09-08-2008, 11:22 PM
OK, I think I need to be a tester...not because I love it but because if I can be swayed to like it, it would be impressive. I'm not thrilled with the looks, can't imagine a kid that would want a brown booster, and wow is that pricey! I've been spoiled by Britax...can the Oober win me over?
crunchierthanthou
09-08-2008, 11:28 PM
Hhhmmm.....while I could easily drop that for a booster, I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around that purchase price for a dedicated booster. But....with all the perks (lightweight, narrow, water repellant seat cover), I would likely buy it.
don't forget rigid latch. :thumbsup:
I guess I'm not surprised by the price. The olli is ~$90 and owners say it's worth every penny. High back boosters are usually 2-3 times the price of their backless counterparts, so yeah- $225-$250 would have been my guess.
Yeah, the Olli is awesome.
hipmaman
09-08-2008, 11:41 PM
Michael, what are the prices for the Canadian market?
Unregistered
09-09-2008, 12:09 AM
Thanks for all of the awesome feedback.:D Feedback from our stores has been equally enthusiastic. I keep directing our stores to check out this site and read your feedback. And most of our retailers are familiar with this site and some even post here.
Now (drumroll please) for the pricing.
oobr will be $239.99 for the standard colors.
Paul Frank oobr's are $254.99
There are also 2 new Paul Frank olli patterns that will retail for $99.99.
It's a crazy week here and I'm trying to check out the site, but I don't have tons of time to post. Post any questions and I'll reply next week.
Thanks
Michael,
I just received a reply to an email I sent earlier today regarding price and was told by Rhonda that the standard colors were going to launch at $139.99 -- slightly more for the Paul Frank editions. I'm confused. Please shed some light. I'm considering the Oobr or the Jane Indy Plus and it might come down to price as they seem very similar. Am I really going to have to wait until December!?!
hsjwmom
09-09-2008, 12:59 AM
Michael,
I just received a reply to an email I sent earlier today regarding price and was told by Rhonda that the standard colors were going to launch at $139.99 -- slightly more for the Paul Frank editions. I'm confused. Please shed some light. I'm considering the Oobr or the Jane Indy Plus and it might come down to price as they seem very similar. Am I really going to have to wait until December!?!
Now that is a price I could handle! :o
I WANT one so bad! DD1 keeps asking to see a pic of the "monkey seat" again. I hate to tell her we won't be getting it...this would have been the first time she would get to pick her seat.
Heather98012
09-09-2008, 01:11 AM
I can't believe it would be $140 when the Olli is $90...it just doesn't make sense, ya know?!
Michael, what are the prices for the Canadian market?
$249.99 for oobr and $264.99 for the Paul Frank oobrs. ollis are the same price in Canada and the US. I think we did better than most at keeping the pricing as close as possible.
bfmarini
09-09-2008, 01:16 AM
we're at the show here and the seat is worth ever penny. I believe the standard prints are going to be starting at $239
Michael,
I just received a reply to an email I sent earlier today regarding price and was told by Rhonda that the standard colors were going to launch at $139.99 -- slightly more for the Paul Frank editions. I'm confused. Please shed some light. I'm considering the Oobr or the Jane Indy Plus and it might come down to price as they seem very similar. Am I really going to have to wait until December!?!
typo. Sorry for the confusion, but they are $239.99/$254.99. I think she may have sent that from her blackberry (small buttons), and we're all a little tired/jetlagged.
Thanks
There are two mechanisms in the base of oobr. The strap is a quick release for the rigid latch (just like olli).
The second (lever) is really cool. It allows the rigid latch system to slide out at the back of the seat. This is the recline feature! The seat reclines up to 12 degrees (max). The base has 6 positions. It's the same type of mechanism that's in the seat track of your car. By moving the base of the seat away from the vehicle seat it allows the seat to recline. All of this can be done without unlatching the seat! It's a little hard to explain, but I think Darren took some pictures of this feature.
Defrost
09-09-2008, 01:44 AM
There are two mechanisms in the base of oobr. The strap is a quick release for the rigid latch (just like olli).
The second (lever) is really cool. It allows the rigid latch system to slide out at the back of the seat. This is the recline feature! The seat reclines up to 12 degrees (max). The base has 6 positions. It's the same type of mechanism that's in the seat track of your car. By moving the base of the seat away from the vehicle seat it allows the seat to recline. All of this can be done without unlatching the seat! It's a little hard to explain, but I think Darren took some pictures of this feature.
Ooo... and this may seem like a silly question, but it can be used while DRIVING in the recline positions? (The Start has funny rules about their recline mechanism - still haven't figured it out, but from what I can tell, it comes down to "don't actually drive with it reclined, though.")
I think that would make it the only booster that can be reclined while "installed" and in use, yes? Snazzy.
Heather98012
09-09-2008, 01:46 AM
There are two mechanisms in the base of oobr. The strap is a quick release for the rigid latch (just like olli).
The second (lever) is really cool. It allows the rigid latch system to slide out at the back of the seat. This is the recline feature! The seat reclines up to 12 degrees (max). The base has 6 positions. It's the same type of mechanism that's in the seat track of your car. By moving the base of the seat away from the vehicle seat it allows the seat to recline. All of this can be done without unlatching the seat! It's a little hard to explain, but I think Darren took some pictures of this feature.
Me likey. :thumbsup:
Ooo... and this may seem like a silly question, but it can be used while DRIVING in the recline positions?
I'll have to double check, but I believe so. That's why we limit the recline to 12 degrees. 12 degrees is the critical point where the head falls backwards and not forwards. This is all just my understanding from the engineers. I'll have to get back to you with an official and accurate response.
Gypsy
09-09-2008, 02:03 AM
Can we see pics of the new Olli's with the Paul Frank Covers? or at the very least can you tell us what they will be?
jubgulia
09-09-2008, 02:19 AM
Ooh. Well, I guess I can always just admire it from afar. :o
momto2boysinOnt
09-09-2008, 07:50 AM
$249.99 for oobr and $264.99 for the Paul Frank oobrs. ollis are the same price in Canada and the US. I think we did better than most at keeping the pricing as close as possible.
Thank you for that! :)
Kat_Momof3
09-09-2008, 08:32 AM
typo. Sorry for the confusion, but they are $239.99/$254.99. I think she may have sent that from her blackberry (small buttons), and we're all a little tired/jetlagged.
Thanks
Not surprised to hear you guys are jetlagged... get some rest!!
I will be another one admiring it from afar... I'm sure it's worth what the MSRP is, but I scrimp for my carseats as it is (they're safety gear, so it's worth it)
Looks like Ruthie will end up using the FPSVB in her daddy's car after she outgrows the Radian, until it expires... then we'll see at that time... and she'll use the Nautilus or get a Jane Indy Plus or Monterey (just depending on how she fits in it after she outgrows the Nautilus) in my car
scatterbunny
09-09-2008, 10:33 AM
There are two mechanisms in the base of oobr. The strap is a quick release for the rigid latch (just like olli).
The second (lever) is really cool. It allows the rigid latch system to slide out at the back of the seat. This is the recline feature! The seat reclines up to 12 degrees (max). The base has 6 positions. It's the same type of mechanism that's in the seat track of your car. By moving the base of the seat away from the vehicle seat it allows the seat to recline. All of this can be done without unlatching the seat! It's a little hard to explain, but I think Darren took some pictures of this feature.
Wow, that sounds AWESOME. :cool:
The price is pretty much out of my league, though. I only owned a Start and Regent because I got great deals on them. :o It's going to be impossible to convince dh that we should pay more for a booster seat than we did for any harnessed seat.
I'm going to try, though. :p I'm going to play up the magnesium frame, the rigid LATCH, the awesome recline feature, the super-cool covers, and the comfort and quality I expect after using the Olli. Hopefully those things will be enough to convince him that we need to save up.
TerisBoys
09-09-2008, 10:38 AM
Wow, that sounds AWESOME. :cool:
The price is pretty much out of my league, though. I only owned a Start and Regent because I got great deals on them. :o It's going to be impossible to convince dh that we should pay more for a booster seat than we did for any harnessed seat.
I'm going to try, though. :p I'm going to play up the magnesium frame, the rigid LATCH, the awesome recline feature, the super-cool covers, and the comfort and quality I expect after using the Olli. Hopefully those things will be enough to convince him that we need to save up.
Don't forget that it's NARROW too - and you need NARROW in the Focus :)
(Yes, enabler)
scatterbunny
09-09-2008, 10:41 AM
YES, thank you, it's also really narrow. :cool: That just *might* mean I won't need to use a different booster when we do three-across.
skaterbabscpst
09-09-2008, 10:52 AM
YES, thank you, it's also really narrow. :cool: That just *might* mean I won't need to use a different booster when we do three-across.
That might be the convincing factor for Cam too, but that would still require actually having the money. :p lol
crunchierthanthou
09-09-2008, 11:08 AM
There are two mechanisms in the base of oobr. The strap is a quick release for the rigid latch (just like olli).
The second (lever) is really cool. It allows the rigid latch system to slide out at the back of the seat. This is the recline feature! The seat reclines up to 12 degrees (max). The base has 6 positions. It's the same type of mechanism that's in the seat track of your car. By moving the base of the seat away from the vehicle seat it allows the seat to recline. All of this can be done without unlatching the seat! It's a little hard to explain, but I think Darren took some pictures of this feature.
I'll have to double check, but I believe so. That's why we limit the recline to 12 degrees. 12 degrees is the critical point where the head falls backwards and not forwards. This is all just my understanding from the engineers. I'll have to get back to you with an official and accurate response.
I know you're not the engineer, but what about vehicles where it's starting out with a bit more of a recline than average? There are some vehicles that already have a large degree of recline on their seats (like the saturn outlook) or that require you to recline the seatback a bit to access the lower anchors (as in chrysler minivans). Is that accounted for with the 12 degree maximum?
momto2boysinOnt
09-09-2008, 11:10 AM
YES, thank you, it's also really narrow. :cool: That just *might* mean I won't need to use a different booster when we do three-across.
I can't wait to hear how Oobr puzzles with other seats (namely a FFing Radian or a Nauti). That is often as much a deciding factor as overall width when it comes to 3-across situations. I'm hoping that they will puzzle well, allowing me lots of room for an adult (or a friend's seat) in the back of our Camry.
scatterbunny
09-09-2008, 11:31 AM
The latest blog entry (http://carseatblog.com/?p=176) from the ABC Kids Show is up, and it appears that the outside measurement at the torso wings is 18 inches.
That doesn't seem all that narrow to me, especially when we've heard that the oobr should be narrower than the Parkway. I really, really hope the measurement at the armrest is 16 inches, like we've heard it's supposed to be.
smurf
09-09-2008, 09:52 PM
I just showed the Paul Frank pics to DH ("isn't this the most gorgeous car seat ever?") and he nodded in approval.
Unbelievable! He's a convert!
Mama!
09-09-2008, 10:17 PM
Ok, looks like we'll be swinging for 2 monkey Olli's instead :eek:
Gypsy
09-09-2008, 11:13 PM
Are the Olli's going to be available with the Paul Frank Skull & Crossbones?
Jewels
09-09-2008, 11:45 PM
Is this seat coming to Canada? If so when?
Defrost
09-09-2008, 11:46 PM
Are the Olli's going to be available with the Paul Frank Skull & Crossbones?
Yeah, 'cause I do have a kid who could use a backless... :whistle:
christineka
09-10-2008, 12:02 AM
Cool seat, but no way on that price. I'm not really interested in really cool, waterproof fabric. I just want a seat that does its job, is thin, and something affordable. I have too many kids to pay $250 for a booster.
melniemi
09-10-2008, 12:14 AM
If it doesn't expire, I might be able to make myself afford one:o
I have a question for Michael.
Hearing that the Oobr fabric repels water, I am curious to know what the fabric is made of. My little girl is allergic to latex, and many fabrics that are water resistant contain natural rubber latex.
Edited to add: What about in the rubber on the top of the armrests?
The "rubber" armrests are made of sanoprene. A synthetic material that does not contain latex.
I have done a bit of investigation and can confirm that the waterproof fabrics
do NOT contain actual latex but a synthetic latex-like
product. It is patented, therefore I would not be able to get into
specifics, but hopefully that works for you.
Thanks
Hhhmmm.....while I could easily drop that for a booster, I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around that purchase price for a dedicated booster. But....with all the perks (lightweight, narrow, water repellant seat cover), I would likely buy it.
Did we ever hear the expiration date? Or did I just miss that?
2 year warranty and 7 year expiration date.
safeinthecar
09-10-2008, 07:25 PM
The "rubber" armrests are made of sanoprene. A synthetic material that does not contain latex.
I have done a bit of investigation and can confirm that the waterproof fabrics
do NOT contain actual latex but a synthetic latex-like
product. It is patented, therefore I would not be able to get into
specifics, but hopefully that works for you.
Thanks
Thanks. That's what I needed to know.
Mommyto2
09-10-2008, 09:25 PM
I really think this might be dd's booster when she is ready. So I have 18 months ish to save for it. Cause dh would flip if I spent that on a booster. I love, love, love the monkey, but I am pretty sure dd will want pink.
Can't wait to see more pictures with different kids and to hear how it fits in different cars. :D
mommyto4
09-11-2008, 04:51 PM
I want to be a tester. PPPPPLLLEEEEAAAASEEEEE!!!
I have a 2 year, 33 pounder; 3 year 36 pounder; 6 year, 45 pounder; 7 year, 60 pounder; 8 year, 42 pounder; 9 year, 50 pounder; and more that might fit, a 10, and 12 year old that might fit.
I would gladly take tons of pics & write reviews with the help of Defrost - we can happily share a tester oobr.
I'd love to be a tester too. I have three kiddos (ages 11 1/2, 10, & 8 1/2). I also have an adopted grandson that is 4. Please, Please, Please!!!
My son love the green one. Green is his favorite color. He says, "that would work", but only the green one. He's soooo funny.
April
09-11-2008, 04:57 PM
I would SO be a tester! um, I mean, Griffin and Faith would be....Then we wouldn't need to rush out and get Monterey's for them. Griffin would just die for the skull one :)
QuassEE
09-11-2008, 05:32 PM
If Michael does want some testers, and some reviews from members, I can definitely organize something in the Vancouver area if we were to obtain a seat. We only use a booster part-time for my 5 year old, and my 11 year old is in a LBB so I won't be buying one of mmy own for a year or two. It would be great to get a Monterey to compare side-by-side.
-Nicole.
hipmaman
09-11-2008, 11:29 PM
Michael is closest to me and I have 2 booster age kids ;) :) :D:rolleyes::whistle:
jdubsm
09-11-2008, 11:35 PM
I'd love to be a tester. I have 2 - 6/12 yr olds & a 4 1/2 yr old that are in boosters some of the time.
Jewels
09-11-2008, 11:51 PM
I'll be a tester :D
I have a bunch of children I can test it out with (my BFF has 3 girls 4.5, 7, 9 years along with my own 4 year old).
LISmama810
09-12-2008, 12:07 AM
I think it's pretty safe to say that we'd ALL like to be testers :whistle:
crunchierthanthou
09-12-2008, 12:13 AM
I think it's pretty safe to say that we'd ALL like to be testers :whistle:
yeah. I'm a bit confused. Is clek actually looking or is everyone just throwing that out there?
TerisBoys
09-12-2008, 07:44 AM
yeah. I'm a bit confused. Is clek actually looking or is everyone just throwing that out there?
I think it's a lot of wishful thinking :)
*raising hand and volunteering her long-legged boys*
Naomi's-Momma
09-12-2008, 08:56 PM
I'd love to be a tester. I have nieces and nephews ages, 5. 6. 7. 8. & 10. :whistle:
I know wishful thinking but it would be fun. the kids love trying out seats at wal-mart. and target.
mommyto4
09-13-2008, 05:43 PM
Yep, definitely wishful thinking on my part. It sure would be nice though.
Kat_Momof3
09-14-2008, 02:24 PM
if there is a person on this board with a kid over age 6 who WOULDN'T want to be a tester, I think they are just not right in the head.
Jeanum
09-14-2008, 03:06 PM
Or still extended harnessing their 6+ year old and not pondering what booster to use full time just yet. ;)
Kat_Momof3
09-14-2008, 04:29 PM
well, true:thumbsup:, but that would be a smaller 6yr old.... should have put 6-8yr old to be fair.:whistle:
Attached is the handout that we will have for future shows. This also shows the updated cotton candy and flamingo patterns.
cheers
featherhead
09-15-2008, 01:46 PM
I love the names of the covers!
skaterbabscpst
09-15-2008, 01:47 PM
I think my boys would like the black, but then again, who knows. They're at that age where they are just really difficult to please.
Joy would love the cotton candy, but since she had a Parkway already that she's not even using.... lol
scatterbunny
09-15-2008, 02:16 PM
I think my dd would love Flamingo and Skurvy. :love:
LISmama810
09-15-2008, 02:38 PM
My son (um, and I) would like a few of those. We're going to have a hard time deciding.
QuassEE
09-15-2008, 02:42 PM
Did I miss Skurvy the first time around? SOLD :) Julius for my 3 year old (uhh, eventually...) and Skurvy for my 5 year old (uhh, eventually...)
-N.
Want to see oobr In Real Life??
oobr will be on display THIS Saturday in Atlanta.
The American Baby Faire is this weekend.
Atlanta, GA
September 20-21, 2008
Cobb Galleria Centre
Sat. 10:00 AM-5:00 PM/Sun. 11:00 AM-5:00 PM
http://www.americanbabyfaire.com/index.htm
LISmama810
09-15-2008, 02:56 PM
When is clek coming to SoCal? Atlanta is a bit out of my way...
momto2boysinOnt
09-15-2008, 04:00 PM
Any upcoming Canadian fairs?
Any upcoming Canadian fairs?
:) Babytime show
November 7-9 Metro Toronto Convention Centre
http://www.babytimeshows.ca/fall/index.html
hipmaman
09-15-2008, 07:43 PM
:) Babytime show
November 7-9 Metro Toronto Convention Centre
http://www.babytimeshows.ca/fall/index.html
You mean I had to take time off work to go? Hmmm, might be worth it ;)
crunchierthanthou
09-15-2008, 09:34 PM
bumping my question now that you're back from the show-
I know you're not the engineer, but what about vehicles where it's starting out with a bit more of a recline than average? There are some vehicles that already have a large degree of recline on their seats (like the saturn outlook) or that require you to recline the seatback a bit to access the lower anchors (as in chrysler minivans). Is that accounted for with the 12 degree maximum?
regarding:
There are two mechanisms in the base of oobr. The strap is a quick release for the rigid latch (just like olli).
The second (lever) is really cool. It allows the rigid latch system to slide out at the back of the seat. This is the recline feature! The seat reclines up to 12 degrees (max). The base has 6 positions. It's the same type of mechanism that's in the seat track of your car. By moving the base of the seat away from the vehicle seat it allows the seat to recline. All of this can be done without unlatching the seat! It's a little hard to explain, but I think Darren took some pictures of this feature.
and
I'll have to double check, but I believe so. That's why we limit the recline to 12 degrees. 12 degrees is the critical point where the head falls backwards and not forwards. This is all just my understanding from the engineers. I'll have to get back to you with an official and accurate response.
:)
Originally Posted by crunchierthanthou
I know you're not the engineer, but what about vehicles where it's starting out with a bit more of a recline than average? There are some vehicles that already have a large degree of recline on their seats (like the saturn outlook) or that require you to recline the seatback a bit to access the lower anchors (as in chrysler minivans). Is that accounted for with the 12 degree maximum?
Because the latch is adjustable you can push the booster seat tightly against the vehicle seat. This should put the seat in its most upright position in any vehicle. You can see it in the demo video on the blog
http://carseatblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/demo-of-oobr.mp4
I tried reclining the seat we had at the show (09 Caravan swivel and go seat). And with the Caravan seat reclined a lot, you can still get the oobr in an upright position.
Did I explain that clearly?
Wineaux
09-16-2008, 09:55 AM
Yeah, since you are back from the show... When will Clek be putting out a Convertible with that magnesium shell? Hmmmmm? I don't want to have to wait another 6 or so years before I get to buy a Clek product! :(
crunchierthanthou
09-16-2008, 10:51 AM
Because the latch is adjustable you can push the booster seat tightly against the vehicle seat. This should put the seat in its most upright position in any vehicle. You can see it in the demo video on the blog
http://carseatblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/demo-of-oobr.mp4
I tried reclining the seat we had at the show (09 Caravan swivel and go seat). And with the Caravan seat reclined a lot, you can still get the oobr in an upright position.
Did I explain that clearly?
yes, thank you. My concern is actually the opposite. I an thinking of situations where it may be over reclined (more than the 12 degree critical point you described).
yes, thank you. My concern is actually the opposite. I an thinking of situations where it may be over reclined (more than the 12 degree critical point you described).
I don't understand? if the vehicle seat is reclined more than 12 degrees, oobr should still be able to be installed in its most upright position. oobr will not recline more than 12 degrees. It has stops built in to prevent this.
Does that answer your question?
I have to have this booster! It's exactly what I've been waiting for. :love:
Alas, December is so far away. . .http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc220/diezelpower/sigh.gif
Kat_Momof3
09-17-2008, 11:00 AM
I don't understand? if the vehicle seat is reclined more than 12 degrees, oobr should still be able to be installed in its most upright position. oobr will not recline more than 12 degrees. It has stops built in to prevent this.
Does that answer your question?
She's meaning in a vehicle where the seats aren't able to adjust the recline, but the whole seat is in a naturally reclined (with the vehicle seat slanted) position... so that, when the oobr is installed in upright mode, it would be slanted about 30-35* (like a car we used to have before the van... an old 95 Buick LeSabre... the seats were extremely slanted (had to use 3 noodles to get good recline on any rf seat except the Evenflo Triumph, because it's big big shell made it sit further from the bight) and the it made any carseat in upright position sit like it would if it were reclined about 30-35*
I attached a picture of a shot of the back seat of the newer buick model sedan that is similar in exterior and interior to show what I mean.
of course, mine didn't have those horrid immoveable headrests, but there you are.
crunchierthanthou
09-17-2008, 11:29 AM
I don't understand? if the vehicle seat is reclined more than 12 degrees, oobr should still be able to be installed in its most upright position. oobr will not recline more than 12 degrees. It has stops built in to prevent this.
Does that answer your question?
Like Kat explained (and I said above) my concern is not for how upright the oobr can be, but rather over reclining it. Let's make sure I'm understanding what you're saying before we belabor this any further.
That's why we limit the recline to 12 degrees. 12 degrees is the critical point where the head falls backwards and not forwards. This is all just my understanding from the engineers. I'll have to get back to you with an official and accurate response.
so the booster cannot be reclined any more than 12 degrees. Any more than that and the head falls in the wrong direction, right? (not sure I can picture the backwards vs forwards thing and exactly the implications, but I'll take your word for it :o )
I drew a little diagram to show what I mean. (red is oobr, black is vehicle seat and blue is vertical)
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z157/crunchierthanthou/oobrrecline.jpg
the picture on the right represents a vehicle seat like the one Kat posted. The slope and recline of many vehicles essentially tilts the whole system. Sure, the oobr is still at it's maximum recline of 12 degrees, but with even a slight recline the child is at 20. Is 12 degrees truly the critical point, or is that accounting for seats that are sloped and recline to start? Am I completely off base here?
understood :thumbsup:
I'm getting clarification from our engineers.
Thanks
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