10 year expiry date?

[horseymom]

was this ever the case?

[tcottawa]

for all seats not marked with a expiration, the expiration date is assumed to be 10 years from DOM. Not many around, though...

[santecno]

It was the case yes, but now Transport Canada has release expiry dates: http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/childsafety/notices/TP14563C/2007c10/menu.htm

[valleyfam]

I once had a Century Brevaira Ascend (I think that was it) that was 10 years but that was in the early 90's. It was my nephew's. I don't think any new seats are that long.

[beeman]

Thats what SGI reccomends here for buying used seats :thumbsdown: . It's been said before, but definately outdated and unsafe.

[horseymom]

I know of one being used right now that has it in the manual as 10 years. it would be around 6 years now I belive??

[leebeeag]

All Australian standard seats are 10yr expiry.
Not sure why we have longer expiry than the US of 6yrs

[snowbird25ca]

for all seats not marked with a expiration, the expiration date is assumed to be 10 years from DOM. Not many around, though...

Not anymore - see post quoted directly below for the link to the release from Transport Canada.

(Any seat that doesn't have a CMVSS sticker and DOM is older than 10yrs old and definitely expired. :thumbsup: )

It was the case yes, but now Transport Canada has release expiry dates: http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/childsafety/notices/TP14563C/2007c10/menu.htm

:yeahthat:

I know of one being used right now that has it in the manual as 10 years. it would be around 6 years now I belive??

There were fisher price seats that had 8yr expiry dates. I'm not aware of any that have ever had 10yrs in the manual. (Old Fisher Price seats, not the one that's currently available for sale in the US.)

[tcottawa]

Not anymore - see post quoted directly below for the link to the release from Transport Canada.

(Any seat that doesn't have a CMVSS sticker and DOM is older than 10yrs old and definitely expired. :thumbsup: )



:yeahthat:



There were fisher price seats that had 8yr expiry dates. I'm not aware of any that have ever had 10yrs in the manual. (Old Fisher Price seats, not the one that's currently available for sale in the US.)

They why did they even tell me that (10 year rule) in class? :(

[hipmaman]

They why did they even tell me that (10 year rule) in class? :(

Ask your instructor to see what he/she can verify for you. But you saw the TC notice in the link provided, right?

Is your class recent? Very strange if it is recent as we all know that manufactures started to put expiration dates in manuals and on the seats themselves as far back as 2001/2002 (or maybe even earlier because I remember when buying carseats for my ds in around 2001/2002, I started to see expiration dates on some seats).

[TechnoGranola]

All Australian standard seats are 10yr expiry.
Not sure why we have longer expiry than the US of 6yrsI might be way off base, but I wonder if it has anything to do with temperature? I believe your weather in Australia is much more consistent than areas of Canada? For example, we'll get extreme cold with temps down to -35 Celsius (lower with windchill), and then in the summer, temps as high as +35 Celsius. In spring here, we've it be -20 C one day, and then +5 C the next day. So, not only do our temps vary greatly from season to season, but also day to day. These extreme temp differences could be really hard on the plastic in a car seat, and it might wear quicker here?

Not all areas of Canada are as drastic as this (and some may be more drastic), but they may set the date for the worst case scenario...

And then again, I could be completely wrong. :)

[Jewels]

They why did they even tell me that (10 year rule) in class? :(

We were told this in class as well. If there is no expiry date then it is 10yrs, I beg to differ because if you call Evenflo or Graco they will tell you to stop using it after 6yrs. I wondered if they just mentioned that in class because that is what TC said even if it was outdated. TC has now updated their info to what the manufacturers say.

[tcottawa]

Ask your instructor to see what he/she can verify for you. But you saw the TC notice in the link provided, right?

Is your class recent? Very strange if it is recent as we all know that manufactures started to put expiration dates in manuals and on the seats themselves as far back as 2001/2002 (or maybe even earlier because I remember when buying carseats for my ds in around 2001/2002, I started to see expiration dates on some seats).

Two months ago (my class)...I'll ask about it at the next clinic. I know they mentioned the rule because its not something I would have known about before the class.

[QuassEE]

Cosco was advertising their seats as 10 years, via Customer Service, per the TC lack of updated rule and no logical "default to manufacturer" mentality in their company. So the 10 year rule technically still applies for those people who have older Cosco seats, who were told by Cosco that their seats expire after 10 years.

I don't agree with Cosco's marketing practices, by any stretch, but if we're to default to the manufacturer on seats that were pre-expiry stamp and pre-new TC "with the 2000s" recommendations then in thise case it's possible for there to be unexpired ancient Cosco seats floating around and in use. This could certainly be a grey area, although I would still recommend replacement in this case.

At this point, we still need to know the 10 year rule because of situations like this--information provided to parents 8 or 9 years ago, prior to manufacturers acknowledging expiry dates. Until we hit 2010, new techs still need to be made aware of the fact that there will be seats out there without any advertised expiry date at the time of manufacture. This is more or less a legal "grandfathering", as these older seats cannot necessarily be asked to comply to new recommendations (against manufacturer instruction). Again--I don't agree that this is best practice, but you cannot say that use of a 9 year old Cosco seat, advertised has having a 10 year expiry at the time of manufacture, purchase, and initial use, is somehow a violation of "the rules"--simply a violation of current best practice and a product of questionable marketing practices on the part of the manufacturer.


-Nicole.

[Jewels]

Cosco was advertising their seats as 10 years, via Customer Service, per the TC lack of updated rule and no logical "default to manufacturer" mentality in their company. So the 10 year rule technically still applies for those people who have older Cosco seats, who were told by Cosco that their seats expire after 10 years.


Graco also says that Century seats are good for 10yrs since there is no expiry date. That's what they told me.

[QuassEE]

Graco also says that Century seats are good for 10yrs since there is no expiry date. That's what they told me.

With the exception of seats made in the last year or so--2000s were stamped as expiring in the December of the 7th year, meaning a 6yr Xm (up to 11m) expiry. I think some seats were also made early in 2001, as well. Moot point, since anything from 1999 and 1998 could still be "unexpired" per manufacturer and supported by TC at the time. This probably goes for other defunct manufacturers, too--Jupiter, for example? There might even still be some 1998 Gerry seats. I can't even imagine putting a child into an old Gerry seat.

-Nicole.

[tcottawa]

Cosco was advertising their seats as 10 years, via Customer Service, per the TC lack of updated rule and no logical "default to manufacturer" mentality in their company. So the 10 year rule technically still applies for those people who have older Cosco seats, who were told by Cosco that their seats expire after 10 years.

I don't agree with Cosco's marketing practices, by any stretch, but if we're to default to the manufacturer on seats that were pre-expiry stamp and pre-new TC "with the 2000s" recommendations then in thise case it's possible for there to be unexpired ancient Cosco seats floating around and in use. This could certainly be a grey area, although I would still recommend replacement in this case.

At this point, we still need to know the 10 year rule because of situations like this--information provided to parents 8 or 9 years ago, prior to manufacturers acknowledging expiry dates. Until we hit 2010, new techs still need to be made aware of the fact that there will be seats out there without any advertised expiry date at the time of manufacture. This is more or less a legal "grandfathering", as these older seats cannot necessarily be asked to comply to new recommendations (against manufacturer instruction). Again--I don't agree that this is best practice, but you cannot say that use of a 9 year old Cosco seat, advertised has having a 10 year expiry at the time of manufacture, purchase, and initial use, is somehow a violation of "the rules"--simply a violation of current best practice and a product of questionable marketing practices on the part of the manufacturer.


-Nicole.

OK, yeah this makes sense...

[snowbird25ca]

The bonus thing about the 10yrs though, (found this thread looking for links on expired seats, and it's only a few weeks old, ;)) is that most seats that are 9yrs old don't meet the rest of the requirements on the checklist - history known, all parts present, instruction manual, seat in basically good condition.

So my guess is that on close examination very few seats that are lacking an expiry date, would actually fall into the acceptable use category at this point. (I have no difficulty telling a parent with twisty straps that couldn't be untwisted and is less than a year from expiry to either contact the manufacturer for a replacement harness or else replace the seat early. ;) But that's also because IMO a severely twisted, basically rope-like harness that can't be straightened out at all is an unsafe seat until the harness is replaced.)

[April]

I have come across many Century seats for sale on CL lately that people are advertising as "no expiry date". I got in a big fight with a guy. Not that I stalk Craigslist telling people not to sell expired seats or anything....:whistle:

[skaterbabscpst]

The ten year date comes from a time when seats were not given expiration dates, and is designed to prevent usage of those seats without specified expiration dates.