The OFFICIAL Britax Frontier Spoilers & Speculation thread (part 3)

[UlrikeDG]

I closed Part 2 early, because a hiccup was causing new posts not to show up in Hybrid Mode.

To keep the forum from being overwhelmed by multiple threads about the Britax harnessed/booster seat, all further chat on this seat should be confined to this thread. If/when it becomes overwhelmingly long, we'll lock it and start a new one.

I also want to remind everyone that much of what is posted here really is just speculation, and even "official" answers straight from the manufacturer are subject to change. It's fun to speculate about what the seat will be and to opine about the features we think the seat will have. However, until the seat actually hits shelves, we really are just guessing about its features. Rumors--even from trusted sources--can be, and often are, totally wrong.

No one knows for sure when this seat will hit shelves. It's even possible that Britax may scrap it altogether before it ever sees the light of day. No one can say for sure what vehicles it will fit in, how it will fit your child, what it will look like, how padded it will be, how comfortable it will be, how it will or won't adjust, or what kind of unexpected kinks it will still have when it is first released. We don't know how much it will cost or where it will be sold.

Please do NOT call Britax to ask them questions about this seat. Doing so serves only to irritate both you and the Customer Service Reps, because the CSRs don't know anything about it, but 100 million people keep asking them stupid questions about a product that literally doesn't even exist yet, and anything they do tell you is subject to change, which will tick you off when it's not exactly what you were told 6 months before the release.

Here's the link to the previous threads for reference:
Britax combo seat: The Frontier? (http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=34086) (consolidated)
The OFFICIAL Britax Frontier Spoilers & Speculation thread (http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=34335)
The OFFICIAL Britax Frontier Spoilers & Speculation thread (part 2) (http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?p=342153#poststop)

[CandCfam]

What the? The Frontier is supposed to have 9 harness slot positions? But maxes out at 18.5". :confused: Ew, I hope someone realizes the error of their ways and raises that top slot position by at least an inch.

[BabyKaykes]

What the? The Frontier is supposed to have 9 harness slot positions? But maxes out at 18.5". :confused: Ew, I hope someone realizes the error of their ways and raises that top slot position by at least an inch.

I think it was decided that the Frontier had 9 headrest positions, not harness heights. I would think that for a FF only seat from 25-80lb, it would have only 5 harness heights.

[CandCfam]

I think it was decided that the Frontier had 9 headrest positions, not harness heights. I would think that for a FF only seat from 25-80lb, it would have only 5 harness heights.

That would make sense, but looking at the picture of it, it is indicating lower than where the headrest would be.

[crunchierthanthou]

That would make sense, but looking at the picture of it, it is indicating lower than where the headrest would be.

I think it looks like 9 harness heights too- a sliding height adjust, but incremental instead of infinite.

Britax's website only lists the Regent as having 19.1" top slots (even if we've seen posters here get taller measurments). That's half an inch different than the Frontier specs. Like I said in the Frontier part 2 thread, I'd rather lose half an inch of harness height to be able to use it on a plane and fit in more vehicles (which I can only imagine will be the case)- not to mention use it as a booster when the harness is outgrown. Really, how many kids pushing the limits on the Regent are in a booster at least part time anyway? Of course, we'll have to see it in use, but the 18.5" top position doesn't bother me. If it has LATCH capabilities as a booster and the headrest doesn't suck, I'm going to really be considering this as our next seat.

[mommyto2angelgirls]

okay since the old thread is locked i'll bring the picture over here so people don't have to go back to the old thread....thank you to crunchierthanthou for snapping this photo and sharing it here for all of us to see

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj300/fedorichfamily/britaxfrontier.jpg

personally i think it looks like the nautilus...its not really ugly but what are the top height slots for the radian. i can't see why they would make something smaller when the regent has been such a strong seller. If the harness slots are lower is the radian80 compareable to the height of the regent???

[Calideedle]

Wow, that is dumb :( It looks just like the Nautilus! What about all the ute covers? And a higher harness hight?

:(

[Synchro246]

Everytime I see the flyer I chuckle to myself that they thought to use the word "Anthropometrically". I'd love to see their anthropometric research. I really would.

[crunchierthanthou]

Everytime I see the flyer I chuckle to myself that they thought to use the word "Anthropometrically". I'd love to see their anthropometric research. I really would.

it must be an insider buzzword. Dave from SSK used it yesterday in chat. They decided on the Monterey dimensions by using anthropemetric data and average sizes. :rolleyes:

[sfeitler]

it must be an insider buzzword. Dave from SSK used it yesterday in chat. They decided on the Monterey dimensions by using anthropemetric data and average sizes. :rolleyes:

I think so. Looks like U of Mich used it in relation to crash-test dummies in 1983: http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/dspace/handle/2027.42/259

And a more recent reference: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2605car.html

-Sarah

[Synchro246]

I'm prettty sure it's a term who's origins lie in anthropology. It refers to measuring humans (obviously :p). Lots of anthropologists focus their whole careers on anthropometrics. I find it interesting. I'm curious if they hired an anthropologist for the job.
:whistle: Maybe I could work for Britax one day :whistle:

[jwren]

Now is the time to call and put in requests for colors, I did twice a few weeks ago and was told they would forward them on to the R&D dept. I asked for red and black (Like the Monarch) Hopefully they will do a good selection right up front, I sort of promised DS he would have red.. shouldn't have said anything I guess.. Anyway I guess if it takes much longer I will just buy the galaxy nautilus and use it as a spare when the frontier is out... Hoping for some info soon though, I hope they are on schedule..;)

[Melizerd]

Ok I haven't really been following the thread but I have to say that seeing that picture I'm disappointed.

I want a cute seat :( I know that's not THAT important but I hate the way the GN looks and I was hoping that Britax would do something more fun.

[Synchro246]

I'd love for it to "go with" the convertable seats, if you know what I mean. Stylistically and with cover choices.
It may be silly.

Are any Britax people known to lurk here?

[papooses]

There's no doubt the Regent would offer at least an extra year of harnessing. Distressing it's said to be discontinued considering the increase in diagnosis of kids onthe Autism spectrum, etc. yet who may not get insurance coverage for a comparable special needs seat :( I'd mentioned to the rep that they figure out a dedicated combination seat (which this does indeed appear to be) but not at the expense of the Regent :thumbsdown:

[crunchierthanthou]

There's no doubt the Regent would offer at least an extra year of harnessing. Distressing it's said to be discontinued considering the increase in diagnosis of kids onthe Autism spectrum, etc. yet who may not get insurance coverage for a comparable special needs seat :( I'd mentioned to the rep that they figure out a dedicated combination seat (which this does indeed appear to be) but not at the expense of the Regent :thumbsdown:

I think we need to reserve that judgement until the Frontier is actually available and we can see how it fits children. Britax's measurements show just 0.6" difference. The discontinuation of the Regent is still just rumor and I've not heard anything regarding the Traveler Plus (which has the same size harness slots as the Regent). Yes, I know it is significantly more expensive, but if that half an inch is a true medical need, then insurance should cover the cost. Am I going to sound like a broken record if I say again that I'll willingly give up half an inch of harness height in the hopes of an FAA approved seat that fits in more vehicles and a booster with LATCH?

[Synchro246]

And *IF* Britax makes the choice to discontinue the Regent in favor of the Frontier--with a .6'' lower harness slot it *might* have something to do with the design and the head excursion numbers that the Regent has. Maybe they tried making the FT have the same slots and it doesn't preform as well. Maybe Britax is heeding to the HWH neck loads stuff. Maybe next year Britax will work to redesign a dedicated HWH that preforms better (and installs more easily) than the Regent.
As much as the Regent is our sweetheart there's room for improvement and I welcome that in whatever (ugly) form it may be.
:twocents:

[Defrost]

Honestly, I think Britax SHOULD discontinue the Regent. The new installation instructions are just killing their reputation for having seats that install easily in almost every car - that reputation is what has always made them worth the extra money for me. I'm willing to give up the extra top slot - I know there are kids that need it, but they aren't in the majority. Most kids are ready for a booster by the time they reach an 18" torso.

And I don't mean to sound like I don't care about the kids who need the extra height - Gypsy's DD is one of them and I love her! It just doesn't make sense for any company to put their efforts into a seat that's really only suitable for a minority of kids.

[crunchierthanthou]

well said, sychro. Yes we recommend the Regent often and it has seen a great increase in popularity in the last two years. I think that's simply a product of the market and people use it because that's all there is. Beyond a few early adopters who have been here for years, EH is a relatively new phenomenon. Until now, harness height has trumped everything but the seat leaves a lot to be desired. If they're going to make a more usable seat that has what I perceive as comparable harness height, I'm all for it. Hopefully the GN and FT are only the start of a flood of new products that combine HWH, convenience and better design.

[jwren]

Well I don't know about anyone else but I am ready, Britax bring it on.. Looks are cool but definately not my priority of coarse my son would love red...I will have to decide something soon as the crotch strap on his MA is getting too tight for him.:eek: I am running out of adjustments on it too..:( I sure hope they get this one out on time..;)

[HEVY]

Is that pic floating around really the Frontier? Glad I got a Regent. :rolleyes:

[azgirl71]

Is that pic floating around really the Frontier? Glad I got a Regent. :rolleyes:

Post 14 has the only pic I am aware of ;).

[TracyRee]

I need a new seat for DS as he's complaining that his BLVD hurts his penis.

Wish the Frontier has the cup holder liek the Nautilus.

[mommyto2angelgirls]

i dunno if the slot height on the new radians are 19.1" and this is 18.5" it could be a replacement. i wonder if britax thought the regent was to overbearing or large and tried to restyle it. maybe at that point they figured belt positioning booster would be a good bonus. i dunno maybe it will look better in a different color.

didn't the others take a bit longer to get girly covers??? maybe britax will get this one one

[elle7715]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not, but what's with the teeny armrests? The Evolva didn't have any (I so wish it was more like the Evolva). My kids are nowhere near booster age but doesn't it look like it will be a PITA for the child to buckle themselves in?

[TracyRee]

I don;t see a harness adjuster strap....anyone else?

[crunchierthanthou]

I think it's there - low, front, center ... about where the gray/black seam is.

[TracyRee]

Ooohh, yes, I see it now :) Wasn't looking down far enough. Poo, can't tell if it's lever or push button.

[Kristydrosgers]

I wanna see

[CandCfam]

There is a spec sheet picture, it's in the Frontier speculation thread.

ETA: HERE (http://www.car-seat.org/showpost.php?p=368534&postcount=6)

[Kristydrosgers]

Thanks, hmmm I don't love the looks of it, it doesn't look very cozy either

[SamPacey&Joshua]

I don't love the looks of it either. I guess I expected to see something more like the Parkway, but with a harness. I also don't like the top slot height. 18.5" is good, but why make it lower than the Regent? I am a huge Britax lover, as is Alisha, but honestly, I'd probably choose a Nautilus over the Frontier at this point (not that we need a new seat). The Frontier would have to blow the Nautilus out of the water for me to really consider it, seeing as it's going to cost much more and it looks basically the same.

[Mama!]

I am not at all impressed by that seat.:thumbsdown:

[wendytthomas]

Hmmm, that in pink may be a nice option. But that booster bottom is so wide it looks like *I* could sit in it! Heck, if the booster top guide is more than 22" I probably can (and sometimes should).

I'm eager for it to come out.

Wendy

[waterbaby]

It doesn't look like a Britax to me at all. But I have no aversion to trying it out... I don't think. I'm a Regent lover. I'm anxious to see how this all pans out with possible discontinues and all. Sigh.

[TracyRee]

I'd go with Nautilus if it weren't for other people reporting boys complainign about it hurting their "area". This is the only reason at all we're even looking for a new seat (we have a BLVD), so I'm going to wait and see how deep the seat on the frontier is.

I'd rather have teh Nautilus as I love the cup holder!!

[jwren]

I called Britax yesterday to see if they had any new photos and the lady said there is one floating around online she even said this website by name and said that it was in fact the frontier and that although there could still be some changes made, that is the one they showed off at the convention..So we'll see. I tried to add a comment about the harness adjuster hoping it would be an improvement from the MA, but when she transferred me to a survey line it never gave me the chance to comment..

[mommyto2angelgirls]

does anyone have an idea on the harness weight limit speculated for this thread. that for me would be the deciding factor on whether i buy a regent now or weight for this and debate about it and the nautilus. any ideas anyone???

[jwren]

yes, 33-80 lbs harnessed and 100 lbs booster. For me that's not as a big deal as the height as most kids outgrow by height long before weight...
;)
does anyone have an idea on the harness weight limit speculated for this thread. that for me would be the deciding factor on whether i buy a regent now or weight for this and debate about it and the nautilus. any ideas anyone???

[tumblebug]

I called Britax yesterday to see if they had any new photos and the lady said there is one floating around online she even said this website by name and said that it was in fact the frontier and that although there could still be some changes made, that is the one they showed off at the convention...

So they ARE watching us! :p Looks like a lever harness adjuster to me.

[jwren]

I know hopefully that means they are also listening...:D
So they ARE watching us! :p Looks like a lever harness adjuster to me.

[Gypsy]

WE WANT FUN COVERS BRITAX!!!! NEUTRAL DOES NOT EQUAL BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!

:twocents: if Britax really is listening :whistle:

[jwren]

Hey I forgot one other interesting and good thing the lady from Britax told me about the frontier, she said that the new frontier will weigh much less and be less bulky than the regent... So I was glad to hear that... anyone else heard that too?

[Airforcemomma]

Where is the pic that is floating around of this seat?

[jwren]

there is one right in this thread on pg 1, comparing it to the MA

Where is the pic that is floating around of this seat?

[Airforcemomma]

Hmmm, thanks, I just took a look.

Not sure I like the way that seat looks. Not what I expected from Britax. Just seems a little odd looking....maybe ugly is a better word for it. Sorry Britax.

Maybe it will look better IRL. Better colours would be good to.

[Mama!]

Dear Britax,

I would buy this seat in a heartbeat if it weren't dog ugly.
Please rethink the design and come out with some cool colors. A beautiful pink would be great. Or maybe something printed, like dogs or astronauts or cowboys for boys?

Thanks, and have a great day.

Just in case they ARE listening...:whistle:

[chickabiddy]

Dear Britax,
I'm not planning on buying this seat, but a cover with pawprints (not bones, we want to pretend they are kitty feet) or animal print would probably make me change my mind.

[Jeanum]

Dear Britax, I honestly am not picky about covers and hope the seat will have tall top harness slots to accommodate kids who would otherwise need a Regent to remain harnessed. And please don't delay the seat indefinitely. Thanks for lurking/listening. :)

[Defrost]

Dear Britax,

I don't care what colors or patterns it comes in; if I can't install it without a degree in engineering and a firefighter, I don't want it!

[Melizerd]

Dear Britax,

I would buy this seat in a heartbeat if it weren't dog ugly.
Please rethink the design and come out with some cool colors. A beautiful pink would be great. Or maybe something printed, like dogs or astronauts or cowboys for boys?

Thanks, and have a great day.

Just in case they ARE listening...:whistle:

Dear Britax,
I'm not planning on buying this seat, but a cover with pawprints (not bones, we want to pretend they are kitty feet) or animal print would probably make me change my mind.

:yeahthat: Dear Britax,

Please remember that we want something that looks nice as well is top notch for functionality and safety. Yes I want it all.

[crunchierthanthou]

I called Britax yesterday to see if they had any new photos and the lady said there is one floating around online she even said this website by name

huh. maybe that's why the manager at USABaby feigned ignorance about the Frontier when I was in there the other day. Britax must have put the smack down about info getting out. :whistle:

you all so owe me. ;)


I honestly don't care that much about covers. Pretty much anything is better than the Regent offerings. I just want it to install more easily than the Regent, be FAA aproved and have a nice harness adjuster. oh, and LATCH as a booster.

[jwren]

ok so I played around in photoshop and made it the color I want, see if any of you like this... Maybe they will get a hint to give us some color..;) I kind of like this, it makes the seat look much nicer, what do you all think?
click on it for larger version..
(PS: Crunchier hope you don't mind..I did this..let me know if it's a problem.;))
PS: I totally agree we owe you, thanks so much for getting that photo, great job... :) and hopefully now after seeing my color change they will listen and give us some options besides grey.. :)

Oh and Britax did tell me they expect to have this seat on the shelves the end of April, so I am thinking they are a little delayed from the original date of just April...assuming that meant the beginning...

1492

[Lara]

Britax, since we know you are watching,

I want cute covers too! Something purple, preferably. Like the pink monach, just purple down the middle maybe? Or zebra! We loved our zebra cover:love:. I think zebra down the middle and black down the sides would be adorable ;).

Oh, and can you work on the shoulder pads a little bit? Something longer, like on the FPSVD or recaros. The ones on our marathon are essentialy useless.

This seat looks like it has potential! I don't like the price, but if its out by the September sale then maybe we can swing it (if dd lasts in her Marathon and triumph that long. not holding my breath)

Thanks.:)

[crunchierthanthou]

ok so I played around in photoshop and made it the color I want, see if any of you like this... Maybe they will get a hint to give us some color..;) I kind of like this, it makes the seat look much nicer, what do you all think?
click on it for larger version..
(PS: Crunchier hope you don't mind..I did this..let me know if it's a problem.;))
PS: I totally agree we owe you, thanks so much for getting that photo, great job... :) and hopefully now after seeing my color change they will listen and give us some options besides grey.. :)


I do like the red better than the gray.

Um, thanks for asking me... after you posted it. ;) Really, it's not a huge deal because I took it so I could share it, but I'll admit that it does bug me a bit to see it posted from other people's photobuckets or attached from their hard drives without credit. :o Although, that doesn't exactly apply in your case since you were playing with it. The least all you who are snagging it for yourselves could do is rep me for it. :p

[mommyto2angelgirls]

I do like the red better than the gray.

Um, thanks for asking me... after you posted it. ;) Really, it's not a huge deal because I took it so I could share it, but I'll admit that it does bug me a bit to see it posted from other people's photobuckets or attached from their hard drives without credit. :o Although, that doesn't exactly apply in your case since you were playing with it. The least all you who are snagging it for yourselves could do is rep me for it. :p
sorry i snagged it just to move it into this thread. just didn't wnt people to have to search back to see it. i truggle wioth computers so i am always thinking of others. i played around with it on photoshop. i would like a purple middle or perhaps a dark pink. i like girly but not with girly that gets dirty and gross. since britax knows about us i think this is a good place to express ourselves.

[mamabear]

I Googled the EVOLVA 1-2-3 for fun today and I really liked the grey/mint green, and there is a 2 shade of pink one I'd go for too! I hope since the Frontier is designed to be similar to the EVOLVA then they will follow with some of the same color choices.........

[bethng]

Dear Britax,

I don't care what colors or patterns it comes in; if I can't install it without a degree in engineering and a firefighter, I don't want it!

:ROTFLMAO:

[wendytthomas]

Dear Britax,

Something pink, easy to use, FAA approved, and with padding in there for narrow tushies would be great. Oh, and where's the cupholder?? Please oh please oh please not the cupholder from the Parkway. That's not deep enough to hold a stick of gum.

Thank you!

Wendy

[azgirl71]

ok so I played around in photoshop and made it the color I want, see if any of you like this... Maybe they will get a hint to give us some color..;) I kind of like this, it makes the seat look much nicer, what do you all think?
click on it for larger version..
(PS: Crunchier hope you don't mind..I did this..let me know if it's a problem.;))
PS: I totally agree we owe you, thanks so much for getting that photo, great job... :) and hopefully now after seeing my color change they will listen and give us some options besides grey.. :)

Oh and Britax did tell me they expect to have this seat on the shelves the end of April, so I am thinking they are a little delayed from the original date of just April...assuming that meant the beginning...

1492

I am hoping that maybe they might have a few with them to show at Lifesavers :love:.

[MyBeachBabies]

Dear Britax,

I would love for the Frontier to have:

-The same (or taller) harness slots as the Regent to fit taller, skinnier kids

-Infinite harness adjuster (or at least one the can be changed without uninstalling the seat).

-Narrower than the Regent

-Easy to install like the Marathon/Boulevard.

-LATCHABLE in booster mode

-FAA approved

-Plush cover choices that would include a pink (or other girly colors), blue, green or red, or a pattern such as animal prints, all-star, barrington, madison etc.

Thank you!

[TerisBoys]

Ry would flip over a Cowmoo one - he loves that cover and I think it'd be cute with the black sides.

[finleysmommy]

I do like the red better than the gray.

Um, thanks for asking me... after you posted it. ;) Really, it's not a huge deal because I took it so I could share it, but I'll admit that it does bug me a bit to see it posted from other people's photobuckets or attached from their hard drives without credit. :o Although, that doesn't exactly apply in your case since you were playing with it. The least all you who are snagging it for yourselves could do is rep me for it. :p


Is this really about credit? :thumbsdown:

[finleysmommy]

ok so I played around in photoshop and made it the color I want, see if any of you like this... Maybe they will get a hint to give us some color..;) I kind of like this, it makes the seat look much nicer, what do you all think?
click on it for larger version..
(PS: Crunchier hope you don't mind..I did this..let me know if it's a problem.;))
PS: I totally agree we owe you, thanks so much for getting that photo, great job... :) and hopefully now after seeing my color change they will listen and give us some options besides grey.. :)

Oh and Britax did tell me they expect to have this seat on the shelves the end of April, so I am thinking they are a little delayed from the original date of just April...assuming that meant the beginning...

1492

It looks great with color! I hope they come up with something better than gray. Anything really.

[mommyto2angelgirls]

Dear Britax,

I don't care what colors or patterns it comes in; if I can't install it without a degree in engineering and a firefighter, I don't want it!

:yeahthat:
:ROTFLMAO:

[mommyto2angelgirls]

uggg i need t get a new seat i don't wan tto get a regent and then this be better...but i hate the grey iwant a girly orint...BRITAX PLEASE!!!!!! i want a madison cover or something purple. heck i'll take grey and pink if thats all they got.

[crunchierthanthou]

Is this really about credit? :thumbsdown:

um, no. It's about personal respect and stealing pictures. It's basic internet etiquette. I don't care if someone posts a picture of what they had for dinner last night or a scoops a much anticipated new seat. You don't save it to your account and post it as your own.

[mamaofthree]

I Googled the EVOLVA 1-2-3 for fun today and I really liked the grey/mint green, and there is a 2 shade of pink one I'd go for too! I hope since the Frontier is designed to be similar to the EVOLVA then they will follow with some of the same color choices.........

I love both of those too! I have an obsession with green, so I'd buy a grey/green one in a hearbeat. I think it's a fun color, but still gender neutral. DD would flip for that purpley pink one.

Kimberly

[chickabiddy]

Is this really about credit? :thumbsdown:

No, it's about theft of intellectual property.

[finleysmommy]

No, it's about theft of intellectual property.


Wasn't crunchier breaking the rules by photographing the photo and posting it on the internet for all to see?? Wouldn't that be theft in the same way?

[azgirl71]

Wasn't crunchier breaking the rules by photographing the photo and posting it on the internet for all to see?? Wouldn't that be theft in the same way?

Ok I think we need to get back to the topic of the original post and not dwell on whose pic is or who can do what with it. It is done. Cannot be changed now. The pic does not matter. The thread is to talk about the Frontier.
:twocents:

[chickabiddy]

I don't know if she had permission to share the information. But even if she didn't, two wrongs don't make a right.

[AdventureMom]

I like the red, too, that jwren posted on crunchy's picture. Actually, I like alot of the European colors - dark orange, teal, etc - rather than primary colors, a million shades and variations of beige, and pink... :rolleyes:

[Mama!]

Dear Britax,

Something pink, easy to use, FAA approved, and with padding in there for narrow tushies would be great. Oh, and where's the cupholder?? Please oh please oh please not the cupholder from the Parkway. That's not deep enough to hold a stick of gum.

Thank you!

Wendy
YES! My dd and her poor bony booty would appreciate a COMFORTABLE seat!

[jwren]

I just wanted to clarify that although I posted the color change of Crunchier's photo, I did pm her as I was posting it (and admitted to her that I should have asked first) she was not upset with me she was glad I gave her credit for the photo, she was just commenting about others who post photos but not mention who took the photo, so it makes it appear as their own.

Looking at the other side...I think when others post other peoples photos they don't do it as an intentional thing like stealing or taking credit for.., I think they just use the photo as a reference to something someone was looking for or wanted to discuss.. Anyway it's probably best that we all including me (;)) respect each other's rights and give credit where credit it due, even if the photo is just used to explain something... It is also not a bad idea to watermark your photos, I also told crunchier I could do this for her if she wanted me to..

OK now that all that is said can we please get back to the topic of frontier...;) And Britax will you just hurry up already and get this seat done so we can stop all this speculation :thumbsup::)

[tumblebug]

I'm saying fall '08 is when it will ACTUALLY show up. :p

[jwren]

:bow: Pleeeeeeeeeeeease... don't say that... I can't wait that looooooooooong....:(


I'm saying fall '08 is when it will ACTUALLY show up. :p

[Unregistered]

What the? The Frontier is supposed to have 9 harness slot positions? But maxes out at 18.5". :confused: Ew, I hope someone realizes the error of their ways and raises that top slot position by at least an inch.

This is unrelated to this thread, but forgive me....

I noticed you have a Marathon Olivia; Do you live the pattern? Is the pink a hot pink or peachy pink? I found one one the net for cheap, but the pic looks really orangy, yours doesn't. Thanks for the info!

[pippi2077]

How wide do you think it is? Do you think it would work in the front middle of an F150? We need to do 3 across. I am thinking of this seat for DS. He currently using his Touriva FF in the truck, which is only a weekend vehicle for the most part.

Stefanie

[oldeschool]

http://www.rightstart.com/global/store/category~dept~car+seats~cat~toddler+booster+seats. html
There aren't any specs listed but, is this what it is supposed to look like??
I was if they had an advance on the release date... the site says that it is out of stock and I know that it is not due to be released yet, I just could have sworn that when I was on this site yesterday it was a blank spot where the pic is now!!
Hopefully it will be there soon as I have to replace 3 seats soon and would be overjoyed to be able to keep using Britax.

[Gypsy]

http://www.rightstart.com/global/store/category~dept~car+seats~cat~toddler+booster+seats. html
There aren't any specs listed but, is this what it is supposed to look like??
I was if they had an advance on the release date... the site says that it is out of stock and I know that it is not due to be released yet, I just could have sworn that when I was on this site yesterday it was a blank spot where the pic is now!!
Hopefully it will be there soon as I have to replace 3 seats soon and would be overjoyed to be able to keep using Britax.

That looks a heck of a lot better than the other picture that's available. I could see it being a decent seat, but it still doesn't seem to have much (if anything) the Nautilus doesn't, I DO think I see a cup holder on the side though.

[Gypsy]

Oh, and did you see the colors listed?

Canyon (probably beige)
Rushmore (probably gray)
Pink Sky
Red Rock

[oldeschool]

Now if only they could release it this weekend so that I could avoid having to go out and buy a seat to get us through until this one is out!
My dd would LOVE the girly print, she has never had anything but black or blue for a seat color and I told her that we would try this time.

Does anyone know which manufacturers might be at the Baby Expo in Boston area in a few weeks, I know that Britax is supposed to be there, I was hoping that they might have the seat to at least look at, even if it isn't yet ready to sell.
Here's hoping!

[jwren]

yay thanks for posting that...looks cool...we're getting closer.... now to try and visualize the colors.. I posted a mockup of red/black earlier in this thread. It was a photo that crunchier posted and I used a few photo editing tools to change it...I am hoping that we have an option in this color..my son is patiently waiting for red and black.. so he has a racecar seat



http://www.rightstart.com/global/store/category~dept~car+seats~cat~toddler+booster+seats. html
There aren't any specs listed but, is this what it is supposed to look like??
I was if they had an advance on the release date... the site says that it is out of stock and I know that it is not due to be released yet, I just could have sworn that when I was on this site yesterday it was a blank spot where the pic is now!!
Hopefully it will be there soon as I have to replace 3 seats soon and would be overjoyed to be able to keep using Britax.

[crunchierthanthou]

the headwings don't look bad at all. it doesn't look crazy wide, either. I think the color options are reasonable, but it looks like they only change the side panels.

also,

The highest forward-facing 5-point harness weight capacity seat in the industry featuring True Side Impact Protection, non-rethread harness & headrest adjustment and retractable cup-holders. Latch and Versa-Tether® equipped. Forward Facing: 25-80 lbs. with tether. Booster: 40-100 lbs. Canyon, Rushmore, Red Rock or Pink Sky.

and

Not available until May 2008

[jwren]

as for the date, when I called the other day I was told last week of April, so maybe they are just covering their butts by saying May.. We can only hope..:)

the headwings don't look bad at all. it doesn't look crazy wide, either. I think the color options are reasonable, but it looks like they only change the side panels.

also,



and

[crunchierthanthou]

does it look incredibly shallow to anyone else? If that slit in front of the belly pad is to adjust the crotch buckle, there's almost no thigh support.

http://images.rightstart.com/global/images/large/8546.jpg

[BookMama]

does it look incredibly shallow to anyone else? If that slit in front of the belly pad is to adjust the crotch buckle, there's almost no thigh support.

http://images.rightstart.com/global/images/large/8546.jpg

I thought the exact same thing. My (almost) 7YO is small but quite leggy, so I'd have to have him try this out in person before purchasing. Oh wait ... I don't need one ... DS has a Regent, which we love. Will most likely try him out in it anyway at some point. IF I like this seat, I wouldn't mind selling the Regent and purchasing a Frontier, which could be handed down to DD and wouldn't expire until she's 8.5.

[firemomof3]

I was just hoping that Britax would "step up" with the Frontier and have higher shoulder slots than the GN and better leg support. By the looks of the pictures I'm not so sure :(

[mommyto2angelgirls]

well after looking at that photo. it seems to me that the frontier will seal the end of the regent. since they have the same weight harnessed and almost the same style and the same price. I think that it will be the end to the regent manufacturing. i'm thinkning britax will discontinue the regent and the decathalon by the end of 2008.
though i can say who hoo to the pink and the fact the sides change color may not be that bad. i mean it may look nicer longer since they aren't siiting on a pink seat. it does look to have a cupholder on the side though which would be nice. my kids don't get drinks in my car but would be nice to have the option.
my only question is what is thedeal with the giant red plastic under the armrest. i understand its need for booster mode but why not black instead of red. i think a pink and black seat with these giant red things might be pretty ugly looking.

[tumblebug]

does it look incredibly shallow to anyone else? If that slit in front of the belly pad is to adjust the crotch buckle, there's almost no thigh support.

http://images.rightstart.com/global/images/large/8546.jpg

There is a crotch slot that is nearly the same position in the regent.

[firemomof3]

I'm planning on attending the Baby Expo in Boston this month and I'm hoping that the Frontier will be there. If it is, don't worry, I'll take a lot of photos and complete measurements!!!

[arly1983]

does it look incredibly shallow to anyone else? If that slit in front of the belly pad is to adjust the crotch buckle, there's almost no thigh support.

http://images.rightstart.com/global/images/large/8546.jpg

Is it just me or does that head rest look alot like the BVs that pushes the head forward (please let me be wrong) :o

[Airforcemomma]

I clicked on the links to see the photo's but I don't see anything other then a gift card image where I'm assuming the Frontier is supposed to be. SIGH.....I'm just dying to see this seat.

I'm wanting one for DS. I think he'd get at least 3-4 yrs out of it....hoping!!! He's only 45lbs and 46" with a 16" torso. I wish I could see the pic's.

[mamaofthree]

Why don't I see it on Right Start- is it gone? I did see the one close up through the link someone posted, thanks! It doesn't look very exciting IMO. I'll be curious how kids fit in it compared to the Nautilus though. If it is just as narrow, and not as deep, I don't see why they'd discontinue the Regent. If it doesn't have anything the Nautilus doesn't, no way I'd spend double for it. Especially because I LOVE the harness adjustment and buckles on the Nautilus. My dd can easily get herself in and out. My curiousity is def peaked though, and I can't wait to get official specs and reviews on the Frontier. And if they are really starting with 4 colors instead of just brown and gray- smart move Britax!

Kimberly

[crunchierthanthou]

Why don't I see it on Right Start- is it gone? I did see the one close up through the link someone posted, thanks!

it is gone today. there's the direct link to the photo above. that's still available. Also, the text that I quoted was pretty much everything from rightstart, except for the price (which was $279.99).

If it doesn't have anything the Nautilus doesn't, no way I'd spend double for it.

I might consider it if it has built in lock-offs and LATCH in booster mode. It is also rumored to have a sliding harness height adjust. Of course, I'm still awhile from needing a new seat. Maybe there will be something even better yet. :)

[oldeschool]

I'm sorry that it is gone now, I swear that it was there last night!! I wonder what is going on it was up for about 6 hours and then it was gone. Thank you for pasting the close up picture, I should have copied the original link and posted it, I wasn't sure if that was ok rule wise with ownership rights. Hopefully it will be back up again soon.
Laura

[azgirl71]

It was there an hour ago :(

[Synchro246]

does it look incredibly shallow to anyone else? If that slit in front of the belly pad is to adjust the crotch buckle, there's almost no thigh support.

http://images.rightstart.com/global/images/large/8546.jpg

I think it might be the angle of the pic :twocents: I thought it looked shallow before, from the flyer you posted, but I think it's just hard to tell in these pics.

[jwren]

WhooHooo I hope I don't get in trouble for this, but I had the page left up on my screen since last night and so I saved the image to my hard drive this morning...;):thumbsup:

1532It was there an hour ago :(

[Mama!]

oooh.

The links don't work for me, but that pic does.

It's interesting. I would love to see the colors on the seat.,

[elle7715]

Ohhh, I like it! Is it just me or do the wings seem less confining? DD would never go for a seat with SIP like the Monarch. Too bad I just committed to DD rearfacing forever by buying DS the Diplomat! Both kids are comfortably rearfacing in our car now. Maybe I'll grab one at the next February sale :whistle:

[mommyto2angelgirls]

right start has taken the frontier off there site i called britax to question they said right start had released in it error. but the liks that say large will still work you just don't get the description or colors but colors are on page 4 along with the actual photo...thank you to the individuals that posted this info. i believe the price was listed for 279.99 for those who were ucrious as to cost. the weight harnessed was up to 80 lbs then to 100 as booster mode.

[bobandjess99]

I notice the description says 25-80 pounds harnessed *with tether*
does that mean the seat *has* to be tethered?
I know so many poeple who dont have tether anchors and who arent going to get them just to tether a HWH seat that they dont really want in the first place..... I HATE that. I mean, I *might* be able to talk people into a seat, if ALL they have to do is buy it..but then have to retrofit their vehicle? NOPE. nuh-uh. No way. I feel it really limits my options in terms of recommending it. I have to talk them into plunking down $300, THEN into having anchors installed?

I don't have anchors. Our old conversion van isn't retrofittable. (is that a word?)
so I literally can't use a seat that *must* be tethered....

[Gypsy]

I notice the description says 25-80 pounds harnessed *with tether*
does that mean the seat *has* to be tethered?
I know so many poeple who dont have tether anchors and who arent going to get them just to tether a HWH seat that they dont really want in the first place..... I HATE that. I mean, I *might* be able to talk people into a seat, if ALL they have to do is buy it..but then have to retrofit their vehicle? NOPE. nuh-uh. No way. I feel it really limits my options in terms of recommending it. I have to talk them into plunking down $300, THEN into having anchors installed?

I don't have anchors. Our old conversion van isn't retrofittable. (is that a word?)
so I literally can't use a seat that *must* be tethered....

The Regent requires a tether after 50 pounds, this seat might have a similar rule.

[jwren]

Anyone know how much it costs and if it's possible to add tether to a new F350 Ford crew cab truck? Dh has one and will be using this seat from time to time in his truck so we will maybe have to get one installed..This will be an issue if we CAN'T use it without.. ;) I guess I will then need to ask if Nautilus can be installed without, in case I need to buy one for DH's truck as an extra..but I would rather just install the tether if possible, cause that's safer...:)

I notice the description says 25-80 pounds harnessed *with tether*
does that mean the seat *has* to be tethered?
I know so many poeple who dont have tether anchors and who arent going to get them just to tether a HWH seat that they dont really want in the first place..... I HATE that. I mean, I *might* be able to talk people into a seat, if ALL they have to do is buy it..but then have to retrofit their vehicle? NOPE. nuh-uh. No way. I feel it really limits my options in terms of recommending it. I have to talk them into plunking down $300, THEN into having anchors installed?

I don't have anchors. Our old conversion van isn't retrofittable. (is that a word?)
so I literally can't use a seat that *must* be tethered....

[Gypsy]

Anyone know how much it costs and if it's possible to add tether to a new F350 Ford crew cab truck? Dh has one and will be using this seat from time to time in his truck so we will maybe have to get one installed..This will be an issue if we CAN'T use it without.. ;) I guess I will then need to ask if Nautilus can be installed without, in case I need to buy one for DH's truck as an extra..but I would rather just install the tether if possible, cause that's safer...:)


Is that one with a back seat? if so there are 3 tether anchors, one behind each seat -- read the owners manual for tethering instructions, it's not as simple as most tethers.

If there is no back seat, there will be a tether anchor behind the passenger seat.

[jwren]

yes there is a big back seat, but not latch... I thought we read not tether.. maybe not.. I will look again thanks.
PS: It's a 2008 Ford F350 crew cab shortbed..lariet package with all options..

Is that one with a back seat? if so there are 3 tether anchors, one behind each seat -- read the owners manual for tethering instructions, it's not as simple as most tethers.

If there is no back seat, there will be a tether anchor behind the passenger seat.

[lodonal65]

WhooHooo I hope I don't get in trouble for this, but I had the page left up on my screen since last night and so I saved the image to my hard drive this morning...;):thumbsup:

1532

That looks cool. I think we will be getting one :)

[mommyto2angelgirls]

Anyone know how much it costs and if it's possible to add tether to a new F350 Ford crew cab truck? Dh has one and will be using this seat from time to time in his truck so we will maybe have to get one installed..This will be an issue if we CAN'T use it without.. ;) I guess I will then need to ask if Nautilus can be installed without, in case I need to buy one for DH's truck as an extra..but I would rather just install the tether if possible, cause that's safer...:)

i believe it stated 279.99

[Melizerd]

279.99 was the price I saw too.

[azgirl71]

I notice the description says 25-80 pounds harnessed *with tether*
does that mean the seat *has* to be tethered?
I know so many poeple who dont have tether anchors and who arent going to get them just to tether a HWH seat that they dont really want in the first place..... I HATE that. I mean, I *might* be able to talk people into a seat, if ALL they have to do is buy it..but then have to retrofit their vehicle? NOPE. nuh-uh. No way. I feel it really limits my options in terms of recommending it. I have to talk them into plunking down $300, THEN into having anchors installed?

I don't have anchors. Our old conversion van isn't retrofittable. (is that a word?)
so I literally can't use a seat that *must* be tethered....

I noticed that too I do believe it must be tethered from what I read before they removed it from RightStart. I will include it in my list of options if they already have TA's or seem like they would not mind installing any.

[azgirl71]

yes there is a big back seat, but not latch... I thought we read not tether.. maybe not.. I will look again thanks.
PS: It's a 2008 Ford F350 crew cab shortbed..lariet package with all options..

I looked at some images and saw the webbed loops at the top of the back seat. You TA'sshould be in the webbed loops. Also you will have to tether a little differently in this truck. It is like my Ram. Outboard positions you run the Tether strap through the webbing of the TA in the seating location and then actually hook it to the center TA. YOu can have 2 tethers attach to the same TA in my Ram I am sure it is the same for yout Ford. For the center position to attach the tether strap you run through the webbed loop to an outboard position. This could be different, but most truck are like this. check your manual.

[Defrost]

I looked at some images and saw the webbed loops at the top of the back seat. You TA'sshould be in the webbed loops. Also you will have to tether a little differently in this truck. It is like my Ram. Outboard positions you run the Tether strap through the webbing of the TA in the seating location and then actually hook it to the center TA. YOu can have 2 tethers attach to the same TA in my Ram I am sure it is the same for yout Ford. For the center position to attach the tether strap you run through the webbed loop to an outboard position. This could be different, but most truck are like this. check your manual.

I think the F350s are actually exempt (due to their weight?), that's why it doesn't have LATCH. Some of them put it in anyway, but they're not required to the way they are with other vehicles.

[azgirl71]

I think the F350s are actually exempt (due to their weight?), that's why it doesn't have LATCH. Some of them put it in anyway, but they're not required to the way they are with other vehicles.

You are correct. They are eexempt for the requirement. The do not have the Lower Anchors, but pics show they have the Top Tethers ;)

[Defrost]

You are correct. They are eexempt for the requirement. The do not have the Lower Anchors, but pics show they have the Top Tethers ;)

Oh good! I knew my friend's ginormous and "exempt" Dodge had them (and LATCH) but I wasn't sure how Ford did it. :thumbsup:

[azgirl71]

Oh good! I knew my friend's ginormous and "exempt" Dodge had them (and LATCH) but I wasn't sure how Ford did it. :thumbsup:

Dodge is good about having them even when not required. The Dodge Ram MEGA cab actually has 3 full sets of LATCH in the rear seat. That is why we like Dodge :D.

[joolsplus3]

I notice the description says 25-80 pounds harnessed *with tether*
does that mean the seat *has* to be tethered?
I know so many poeple who dont have tether anchors and who arent going to get them just to tether a HWH seat that they dont really want in the first place..... I HATE that. I mean, I *might* be able to talk people into a seat, if ALL they have to do is buy it..but then have to retrofit their vehicle? NOPE. nuh-uh. No way. I feel it really limits my options in terms of recommending it. I have to talk them into plunking down $300, THEN into having anchors installed?

I don't have anchors. Our old conversion van isn't retrofittable. (is that a word?)
so I literally can't use a seat that *must* be tethered....

Why can't they use a Nautilus or Apex or Radian, then? And why should carseat manufacturers keep having to design seats to fit in cars that are 9+ years old? You aren't alone, by the way, you should have seeen the poor Safeguard people eat it at Lifesavers for daring to invent the Go...but, crap, progress marches on, boosters aren't unsafe, not all seats fit in all cars, and tether anchor retrofitting is usually free...so is it really such a big deal? And besides, they aren't actually allowed to mandate tether use till 50 (actually probably 65 pounds, now that FMVSS 213 covers up to that weight), so I really wouldn't get too upset by one retailer's site.

[tweetykl]

My biggest question is if the crotch straps give boys more room then the Nautilus? There have been so many complaints about the strap and I think ds will run into that issue when we are ready to get this. I do wish the price was a little less but hopefully it is on sale at the next Britax sale.

We are purchasing the Safeseat today for dd (who is due in 2 weeks) to make sure that she can stay in the seat until we are ready to get this new seat. I hope it works.

[jwren]

I meant to add tether not the price of the seat, thanks though..;)i believe it stated 279.99

[southpawboston]

Everytime I see the flyer I chuckle to myself that they thought to use the word "Anthropometrically". I'd love to see their anthropometric research. I really would.

it must be an insider buzzword. Dave from SSK used it yesterday in chat. They decided on the Monterey dimensions by using anthropemetric data and average sizes. :rolleyes:

I'm prettty sure it's a term who's origins lie in anthropology. It refers to measuring humans (obviously :p). Lots of anthropologists focus their whole careers on anthropometrics. I find it interesting. I'm curious if they hired an anthropologist for the job.
:whistle: Maybe I could work for Britax one day :whistle:

i'm coming into this thread pretty late, but i don't find it unusual that they use this term. this is very important. it's not just a buzzword, it's used in most industries where products have to be designed to hold and support the human body, which comes in all shapes and sizes. it's used in the car industry, the furniture industry, and now finally carseat makers are taking this important aspect into consideration in their designs (recaro made a big point about this years ago :p). the term itself (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropometry#History) dates back a long time.

[southpawboston]

Dear Britax, I honestly am not picky about covers and hope the seat will have tall top harness slots to accommodate kids who would otherwise need a Regent to remain harnessed. And please don't delay the seat indefinitely. Thanks for lurking/listening. :)

Dear Britax,

I don't care what colors or patterns it comes in; if I can't install it without a degree in engineering and a firefighter, I don't want it!

exactly!!! just make it easy to install correctly (and match my car's interior ;))!!! who cares about pink, or animals, or footballs! if i wanted those in my car i'd just bring some of my DD's stuffed animals into the car :rolleyes:

[UlrikeDG]

Dodge is good about having them even when not required. The Dodge Ram MEGA cab actually has 3 full sets of LATCH in the rear seat. That is why we like Dodge :D.

According to the LATCH manual, the F350 had LATCH through 2005.

[sfeitler]

Why can't they use a Nautilus or Apex or Radian, then? And why should carseat manufacturers keep having to design seats to fit in cars that are 9+ years old? You aren't alone, by the way, you should have seeen the poor Safeguard people eat it at Lifesavers for daring to invent the Go...but, crap, progress marches on, boosters aren't unsafe, not all seats fit in all cars, and tether anchor retrofitting is usually free...so is it really such a big deal? And besides, they aren't actually allowed to mandate tether use till 50 (actually probably 65 pounds, now that FMVSS 213 covers up to that weight), so I really wouldn't get too upset by one retailer's site.

The only problem with this is, the larger minivans don't always have TAs in all seating positions, right? Especially the newer models... IIRC, someone said the testing procedure changed, leading most manufacturers to actually reduce the number of TAs in their minivans. So if a seat requires a tether, you've reduced the ability to use that seat in some vehicles.

Personally, I'd rather see manufacturers required to provide TAs for all rear seating positions, but that's not likely to happen anytime soon.

-Sarah

[joolsplus3]

Yeah, the government is way too lax on car makers by allowing only three TA's... if they became law, then cars probably would have them in more positions. But the carseat companies can't be expected to design every seat for every car, to meet the failings of the car or government...maybe the tail will wag the dog? Better seats will beget better cars? We can hope.

[SusanMae]

It's in the Spring/Summer Right Start Catalog! Came right to my mailbox today!

So here are the facts:
FF only
25-80 pounds in the harness
40-100 in booster
TSIP
Non-rethread harness and headrest adjustment
Retractable cupholders(but I only see 1)
Colors: Canyon(tan and black), Rushmore(not shown), Pink Sky(not shown)
Price:$279.99
Available May 2008

That's all I know...but thought I should share the knowledge!

Susan

[TerisBoys]

hehe - wonder how much trouble they get in for THAT early release?

[SusanMae]

I dunno!! I just knew y'all would want to know what I know.

Susan

[Stretchy Glue]

Wonder if mine will be in my mail box when I get home...Not that I need another seat that dd can't fit in, but still, exciting. I really care about harness height, since weight means nothing to me.

[chloespurple]

Hi, I am sure this information has already been posted, but I have not had a chance to read through the whole thread. (if this is repeted info. then sorry & I will delete:o)

-4 Colors are Rushmore (Grey and Black, Red Rock (Red and Black),
Canyon (Tan and Black)and Pink Sky (Pink Grey and Black)

-Retail is $279.99

-Available in May 2008

-Product Features:
*25-65/25-80 lb. Harnessed weight capacity with 8 harness height
positions and 3 bockle strap positions.
*True Side Impact Protection, also recognized for sleep support.
*One-hand headrest and harness adjustment for easy and accurate adjustment
*Rotating soft-touch armrests.
*Retractable cup and snack holders.

-Product Weight 24 lbs.

-Product Dimensions W x H x D 19.5 x 22 x 26.5
Harnessed ,headrest extended 19.5 x 27.75 x 27
Booster 19.5 x 22 x 20
Booster, headrest extended 19.5 x 25.25 x 20
Interior Product Dimensions
Seating Compartment Height 21.5"
Seat Area Depth / Width 13.5" / 12"
Shoulder Width 15.25"
Harness Slot Heights 12.25" / 13.1" / 14" / 14.9" / 15.75" /
16.5" / 17.4" / 18.25"
Buckle Strap Depth 5" / 6.5"/ 8.25"

[Shanora]

hmmm...can you scan in a picture to show??? I'm curious to see what it looks like myself....lol

[SusanMae]

I don't have a scanner, I did try taking pics...so let me see how it goes uploading them...gotta find the cord first though!

Susan

[joolsplus3]

Whoo Hoo!!! Rotating armrests! 25lbs to start (hey, it's a little better than 22...yay!)...lots of bum room!

THANKS!!!!

:)

[BudgieStew]

Yeah!!!!!

[sfeitler]

8.25" buckle depth, that should be good for the larger kids!

-Sarah

[tweetykl]

I am getting really excited about this seat now.

[ZephyrBlue]

18.5" top harness height kinda sucks :thumbsdown:

[jwren]

If you look on page 5 of this thread I have the photo that was on the website before it got knocked off..

It's in the Spring/Summer Right Start Catalog! Came right to my mailbox today!

So here are the facts:
FF only
25-80 pounds in the harness
40-100 in booster
TSIP
Non-rethread harness and headrest adjustment
Retractable cupholders(but I only see 1)
Colors: Canyon(tan and black), Rushmore(not shown), Pink Sky(not shown)
Price:$279.99
Available May 2008

That's all I know...but thought I should share the knowledge!

Susan

[BookMama]

18.5" top harness height kinda sucks :thumbsdown:

I think it's worth noting that Britax lists the top slots on the Regent as 19.1. So if the Frontier has top slots of 18.25 (per the other posts), then it's a difference of .85", not the 1.75" it would be if you're using 20" as the top slot measurement for the Regent.

[hipmaman]

I have $299 CAD as the price for Canada. Not bad as it is close enough to the US price.

[csma]

I'm really happy to see the closer crotch buckle positions. DD has a tiny bum and way too much room to slide forward in the smallest Regent position for my comfort level. Also :thumbsup: for 40lb. minimum for booster mode.

Does anyone know if it's FAA approved and whether it will LATCH in booster mode?

[mamabear]

If it doesn't LATCH in booster mode I'm gonna be really dissapointed:(

[aisraeltax]

sorry im joining this thread late. is this seat really going to be a good seat from 25 to 100 lbs???????

anyone know what the lifespan of it will be? 6 years??

someone told me to come over here and look at this seat and now its throwing a wrench into my plans.

[ginny4]

-Product Dimensions W x H x D 19.5 x 22 x 26.5
Harnessed ,headrest extended 19.5 x 27.75 x 27
Booster 19.5 x 22 x 20
Booster, headrest extended 19.5 x 25.25 x 20
Interior Product Dimensions
Seating Compartment Height 21.5"
Seat Area Depth / Width 13.5" / 12"
Shoulder Width 15.25"
Harness Slot Heights 12.25" / 13.1" / 14" / 14.9" / 15.75" /
16.5" / 17.4" / 18.25"
Buckle Strap Depth 5" / 6.5"/ 8.25"


ok i'm so likeing this seat now!! mostly because i had concerns of it being too narrow in shoulders AND seat depth like the NA. i love the roomyness of regent. compared to regent stats on their site:
Product Weight (lbs) 25
Exterior Product W x H x D (in) 21.5 x 30 x 25
Seating Compartment Height (in) 27.75
Seat Area Depth/Width (in) 11.75 / 12
Shoulder Width (in) 15
Harness Slot Heights (in) 12 / 14.4 / 16.75 / 19.1
Buckle Strap Depth (in) 7.4 / 9.4

so the FRONTIER is looking REALLY good for those broad shouldered/long legged kids!!! YAY!! i can deal with a shorter harness height. my kids dont' need it. too abd i can't buy another seat. but i'm more than anxious just to test it out with my children. COOL! very COOL!

[Melizerd]

sorry im joining this thread late. is this seat really going to be a good seat from 25 to 100 lbs???????

anyone know what the lifespan of it will be? 6 years??

someone told me to come over here and look at this seat and now its throwing a wrench into my plans.

You can catch up on all the reading, the other threads are right at the beginning of this one :D The seat will harness from 25-80lbs and then be a booster.

[singingpond]

-Product Dimensions W x H x D 19.5 x 22 x 26.5
Harnessed ,headrest extended 19.5 x 27.75 x 27
Booster 19.5 x 22 x 20
Booster, headrest extended 19.5 x 25.25 x 20
Interior Product Dimensions
Seating Compartment Height 21.5"
Seat Area Depth / Width 13.5" / 12"
Shoulder Width 15.25"
Harness Slot Heights 12.25" / 13.1" / 14" / 14.9" / 15.75" /
16.5" / 17.4" / 18.25"
Buckle Strap Depth 5" / 6.5"/ 8.25"

Thank you for posting this list of dimensions! Where did this information come from (sorry if I missed the reference)? If width is 19.5", I think that is narrower than the numbers that were mentioned in one of the earlier Frontier speculation threads. It would be 2" less than the maximum width of the Regent, and might make it possible to consider this seat for 3-across installations. The photos of the Frontier make it look like it has more curvature down near the bottom (as opposed to the Nautilus, which has a large volume at the bottom with exactly the same width everywhere -- because of its large, straight-up-and-down armrests). It might make the Frontier a bit easier than the Nautilus to puzzle next to some other seats -- at least some chance of gaining a little space through overlap.

Katrin

[joolsplus3]

She's a retailer, I bet her numbers come from Britax, aimed at retailers :)

[Mama!]

If it latches in booster mode, they might have me :whistle:

[chloespurple]

She's a retailer, I bet her numbers come from Britax, aimed at retailers :)

Yes they came from Britax.
I am tyring to find out if it latches in booster mode.
Michelle:p

[aisraeltax]

You can catch up on all the reading, the other threads are right at the beginning of this one :D The seat will harness from 25-80lbs and then be a booster.

yeh, i just read it all earlier today. my 25-100 was including the booster.

i was just asking if anyone knew if this would be a 6 yr. expiration or if that was still unknown. after reading everything, i didnt see the answer.

[chickabiddy]

yeh, i just read it all earlier today. my 25-100 was including the booster.

i was just asking if anyone knew if this would be a 6 yr. expiration or if that was still unknown. after reading everything, i didnt see the answer.

I don't know for sure, but I'd be very surprised if it was anything other than the standard six years.

[aisraeltax]

thanks! i guess im jumping on board this seat. if i get the Monarch for my 10 yo and this seat by the end of next year, i may never have to purchase another car seat. wow!

[joolsplus3]

thanks! i guess im jumping on board this seat. if i get the Monarch for my 10 yo and this seat by the end of next year, i may never have to purchase another car seat. wow!

LOL...that sounds so sad to me...I love buying new seats! :love: Fingers crossed both those seats work for you :)

[purple826]

Okay, I read all 7 pages. Is there another thread I missed somewhere or was this everything? I'm mostly a lurker :) .

Anyway...

1. I agree that neutral does NOT equal BOY. I would LOVE a very BOY seat for my little boy :love: . Since almost every seat out there comes in some form of pink, I think there should be a blue counterpart for the boys :) .

2. Saddly (and yet happily) I won't need a new seat until the middle of next year at the soonest. (We still have 2.5" or 8 pounds until he has to FF in his FPSVD; new baby will use our SS1 for a good year - then we'll move baby to RF in the FPSVD and get DS a new seat... we just have no excuse to buy a new seat before the SS1 is outgrown.) I'm keeping my eyes open now though just so I have an idea of what is out there when we do need it.

3. The Regent does look much more roomy and just overall comfy for kids. Is it almost certain that it will be phased out?

Okay... now I should go research why LATCH in booster mode is such a big thing (is it anything beyond convience - not having to buckle in a loose booster?). That may play a role in our choice.

My overall impression is that I like the GN better (though our walmart still doesn't have it for me to see in person; sheesh they still have an old Triumph as the floor model but sell the EFTA, though I haven't even seen boxes of those there in months...). I'm just not certain the Frontier is worth almost twice as much.

Thanks for all the info!

Edit siggy to say Athan is now still RF at 19mo :) .

[April]

I have $299 CAD as the price for Canada. Not bad as it is close enough to the US price.

WHERE did you see that? Any news on a Canadian date?

[spcamno]

WHERE did you see that? Any news on a Canadian date?

Yeah, I too wants to know the price and when it will be available!?!

[lodonal65]

http://www.britaxusa.com/products/product_detail.aspx?ID=15

Must be coming REALLY soon! :thumbsup:

[CandCfam]

Oh wow!
Now I might actually get interested in this seat.:p

[cryswilkins]

Really?? With a sheet over it, that is so cheesy.

[wendytthomas]

LOL!!! With the sheet. I love it. What teases!!!

I can't wait for it to be out. Hopefully it won't be as hard to find as the Nautilus.

Wendy

[MomToEliEm]

They must realize we are anxious for it's debut. Hope it is released soon.

[MyBeachBabies]

Wow! It really must be coming soon. I can't wait to see it in person. I hope the harness height is high enough for our needs.

[SafeandSecureBaby]

The attached link has all the information we currently have on the seat including colors. We will update it as soon as we get more information. We are currently guessing at MSRP as we don't have that information yet.

http://www.safeandsecurebaby.com/Britax-Frontier-Combination-Booster-Seat-pr-16981.html

[crunchierthanthou]

oh, jwren- did you see this? :D

http://www.safeandsecurebaby.com/product_images_popup.php?url=http://www.safeandsecurebaby.com/images/detailed//d_1146.jpg

[nhlbluesgirl]

You probably saw this on the other thread, but here it is:

link (http://www.safeandsecurebaby.com/Britax-Frontier-Combination-Booster-Seat-pr-16981.html) :whistle:

[Unregistered]

Wow, I guess I'm just lucky. Always been a big Britax person. Have two girls and one just moving into the combo. Between my wife and me we have 3 combos - 2 Blvard and a Roundbt. She got it made with 2. My fingers are losing skin from adjusting with the knob from a 3 year old to a 1 year old. Took a look at the website today and the Frontier was listed. I guess everyone has been waiting for years. I'll use Band-Aids until April. Yes, it’s April. Called and spoke with a Britax employee today just before they closed caught him at his desk.

[chickabiddy]

I'm glad we're learning more.

Personally, I think I'm about $300 worth of glad that none of those colors are calling to me!

[wendytthomas]

Wow, I guess I'm just lucky. Always been a big Britax person. Have two girls and one just moving into the combo. Between my wife and me we have 3 combos - 2 Blvard and a Roundbt. She got it made with 2. My fingers are losing skin from adjusting with the knob from a 3 year old to a 1 year old. Took a look at the website today and the Frontier was listed. I guess everyone has been waiting for years. I'll use Band-Aids until April. Yes, it’s April. Called and spoke with a Britax employee today just before they closed caught him at his desk.

Are your three year old and one year old both rear facing? Or both forward facing? Your one year old should be rear facing. So you're uninstalling the seat constantly? Bandaids until April sounds like a good idea. :-) I like the idea of the one pull headrest rather than the knob. Luckily we don't need to do the knob too much on Piper's Wizards. They're cranked all the way up now.

And just being pedantic, but a combo seat is like the Frontier. A seat that is forward facing only with a harness and then converts to a booster. A convertible seat is what you have. The Boulevards and Roundabout.

Wendy

[elle7715]

The attached link has all the information we currently have on the seat including colors. We will update it as soon as we get more information. We are currently guessing at MSRP as we don't have that information yet.

http://www.safeandsecurebaby.com/Britax-Frontier-Combination-Booster-Seat-pr-16981.html

I NEVER thought I would say this...but...I was hoping the pink one would have more...pink. :o:whistle:

[Patriot201]

The Frontier is in the new One Step Ahead catalog. :) :D :)

(This may already be posted somewhere. I didn't check).

[Patriot201]

I NEVER thought I would say this...but...I was hoping the pink one would have more...pink. :o:whistle:

:confused: That is quite a bit of pink. Am I missing something? :confused:






I LOVE this cover:
http://www.safeandsecurebaby.com/files/cache/17f6cb693929a48ffac44d3a53cca908.jpg

[elle7715]

:confused: That is quite a bit of pink. Am I missing something? :confused:


It IS quite a bit of pink. But you see, I have a Princess Radian in my car. It's significantly raised my pink awareness threshold. And partially blinded me to boot. :p
I do think it's a good compromise for an older girl's seat. Girly, without being My Little Pony or Barbie pink.

[Airforcemomma]

OH, I"m so excited. I want one so bad. Hope they come to Canada in the next month or 2.

I'll sell 1 or both of my marathon's to get it.

[Patriot201]

It IS quite a bit of pink. But you see, I have a Princess Radian in my car. It's significantly raised my pink awareness threshold. And partially blinded me to boot. :p

LOL! Got it! :p :D :p

[megabloxs]

http://www.britaxusa.com/images/products/Frontier/DisguisedFrontier.jpg

http://www.safeandsecurebaby.com/files/cache/62ff083fbb721c41965073bfc27da860.jpg

[HEVY]

Really?? With a sheet over it, that is so cheesy.

Aww I thought it was cute.

OK now I may be upset, when I first seen this seat I did not like it, too mych like the GN. But what I really don't like about it is the arm rest (dd would love them) besides that I kinda like it now. And now I see it has other colors (like pink) I'm really leaning towards it. I don't sea a belt path but it does seem more upright than the Regent. This is not good for me.

[tumblebug]

:ROTFLMAO: That is so funny! They totally did that for people who stalk their site everyday. (Like us.)

[tanyaandallie]

Kind of weird that they put the sheet on their when there is already a site with pics.

[zactayaus]

Darn. I just ordered my second GN and now I'm thinking I might want this seat. My DH would love that seat in his truck (red and black are his favorite colors).

[Gsanmb]

Okay but what is with that meshy material (that is what it looks like in the close up pics)? That is what I DON'T like about the GN and I have always loved the soft plushy covers on the Britaxes. Sigh. I'm gonna wait until we have some true-life feedback.

[Patriot201]

:ROTFLMAO: That is so funny! They totally did that for people who stalk their site everyday. (Like us.)

:whistle: No! Not us! :whistle: :p :D






This seat definitely looks a lot like a HWH Evolva 1-2-3 (the one from the UK/Europe), doesn't it? Of course there are some differences (like the higher harness slots and harness weight limit), but the look is similar.

This is the one I want:
http://www.safeandsecurebaby.com/files/cache/17f6cb693929a48ffac44d3a53cca908.jpg

[mom2riley]

I like it much more now that there are some different pics. But, I don't like it enough to give up my cougar cover. :p I will consider it (and everything else new out) for Irelyn when the time comes. I am a sucker for pink/black combos.

[DaniCPST]

I can't wait for this to come out! I was going to get a Regent for my 3 year old even though I hate how big it is. I am so excited!!!
I will volunteer to be one of the first to buy it and give a good review with lots of pics!

[Patriot201]

Dear Britax, I honestly am not picky about covers and hope the seat will have tall top harness slots to accommodate kids who would otherwise need a Regent to remain harnessed. And please don't delay the seat indefinitely. Thanks for lurking/listening. :)

:yeahthat: I am picky about covers, but my "pickiness" is that I like fairly plain covers that match the interior of my car. :)

I would like higher harness slots than 18.5", though. That just won't work for super-tall kids.

[lodonal65]

I can't wait for this to come out! I was going to get a Regent for my 3 year old even though I hate how big it is. I am so excited!!!
I will volunteer to be one of the first to buy it and give a good review with lots of pics!

Dude! I am so ready to move to Charlotte and stalk the Britax warehouse until I can get one before anyone else! Lol

[jwren]

Oh I am so excited!!! The red and black is the color I am getting..I am preordering it tonight... just got word I can.. yippie..
;)

[lodonal65]

Oh I am so excited!!! The red and black is the color I am getting..I am preordering it tonight... just got word I can.. yippie..
;)

WHERE!?!?! Please do tell!

[crunchierthanthou]

WHERE!?!?! Please do tell!

The attached link has all the information we currently have on the seat including colors. We will update it as soon as we get more information. We are currently guessing at MSRP as we don't have that information yet.

http://www.safeandsecurebaby.com/Britax-Frontier-Combination-Booster-Seat-pr-16981.html

It got buried fast. :)

[DaniCPST]

Dude! I am so ready to move to Charlotte and stalk the Britax warehouse until I can get one before anyone else! Lol


I'll meet you there!!!
You know we could do is have a HUGE carseat.org meetup at the Britax warehouse and just pitch a bunch of tents in the parking lot. And the adults could sit in camping chairs and the kids could all pull up their carseats around the bonfire at night. Now THAT ladies and gents is the ideal vacation trip!!!

[jwren]

I will post after my order is in...;)
WHERE!?!?! Please do tell!

[jwren]

Nope that's not where I am ordering from...I will post later but the one I will get it from was one of the first to get their order in...:thumbsup:

It got buried fast. :)
http://www.safeandsecurebaby.com/Bri...-pr-16981.html

[jwren]

So Britax is located in Charlotte NC? My Dh is going there in the morning for a job we are doing there..Might have to have him go there and get us one lol...;)

[lodonal65]

It sure is! I went there in November 2006 for thier first ever warehouse sale.
It was crazy!

[BookMama]

Nope that's not where I am ordering from...I will post later but the one I will get it from was one of the first to get their order in...:thumbsup:

Is it the KDM Foundation/HipMonkey.com?

I can't wait until people actually get a chance to install this new seat. It has GOT to be easier/less complicated than the Regent. (Which, as I know I've said before, I love ... )

[mommyto2angelgirls]

It sure is! I went there in November 2006 for thier first ever warehouse sale.
It was crazy!

do they do warehouse sales ever year.. are they beter then store prices. my brother is movig there i may have to make him buy me some seats

[Mama!]

That inside meshy fabric...the dark strip down the center...that doesn't look very soft at all. :(

I REALLY want to touch one in real life.

[jwren]

KDM foundation created hipmonkey.com to raise money for the foundation as the proceeds go back into the foundation from the sales..

Is it the KDM Foundation/HipMonkey.com?

I can't wait until people actually get a chance to install this new seat. It has GOT to be easier/less complicated than the Regent. (Which, as I know I've said before, I love ... )

[BookMama]

KDM foundation created hipmonkey.com to raise money for the foundation as the proceeds go back into the foundation from the sales..

Yes, I know. That's why I said KDM Foundation/hipmonkey.com. Otherwise I would have said KDM Foundation OR hipmonkey.com.

If you're gonna get picky. ;)

[jwren]

My guess would be it's not quite like the GN but more like a soft breathable mesh ... Actually after just looking again at the Monarch it looks like they used the same center fabric, if anyone knows what that is, what it feels like and it's quality..maybe we can figure this out..;)

That inside meshy fabric...the dark strip down the center...that doesn't look very soft at all. :(

I REALLY want to touch one in real life.

[jwren]

Whopps I just re-read your post and missed the "it" I thought you wrote, "Is the KDM Foundation/HipMonkey.com? :) sorry..


Yes, I know. That's why I said KDM Foundation/hipmonkey.com. Otherwise I would have said KDM Foundation OR hipmonkey.com.

If you're gonna get picky. ;)

[BookMama]

I thought you were asking a question, If they were the same company... I wasn't getting picky, just trying to answer a question...;):)

Ok, got it! :)

[jwren]

I actually read your post wrong, you must have read mine before I edited it.. anyway I wrote:
Whopps I just re-read your post and missed the "it" I thought you wrote, "Is the KDM Foundation/HipMonkey.com? sorry..

lol... I guess I am just so excited about this seat I am not paying close attention...:D

Ok, got it! :)

[zactayaus]

I just showed my dh the black/red pic and he said for me to cancel our order on the 2nd GN and he wants that one! He also said to go ahead and get the matching Monarch for our dd! I'm so excited I can bearly stand it! I need to get some more info on the Monarch before I order it though (like seat depth). DD only has a 17in torso but very long legs.

[finleysmommy]

I'm SO getting one.

[jwren]

keep back ladies... I'm first..lol.... :D hehe..
Seriously I have a feeling this one is gonna be HOT!!! and out of stock before it's in.. if you KWIM...
;)
I'm SO getting one.

[zactayaus]

I have not read this whole thread so maybe someone has already mentioned this but the specs on the "Safe and Secure baby" website (sorry I don't know how to post the websites address in here) list the top harness height at 18.25". My ds only has a 15" torso so he will get a lot of use out of the harness, but I know that most were hoping for higher harness height.

[jwren]

It's ok here too, my son is about 16" torso, but it really takes a while for that part to grow, I figure my son is 4 1/2 if I get 1 1/2 yrs more harness time he will be 6 and then I will be ok to boost him..;) It's still very worth it to me:thumbsup:

I have not read this whole thread so maybe someone has already mentioned this but the specs on the "Safe and Secure baby" website (sorry I don't know how to post the websites address in here) list the top harness height at 18.25". My ds only has a 15" torso so he will get a lot of use out of the harness, but I know that most were hoping for higher harness height.

[UlrikeDG]

keep back ladies... I'm first..lol.... :D hehe..
Seriously I have a feeling this one is gonna be HOT!!! and out of stock before it's in.. if you KWIM...;)

I doubt it. Britax has never had that problem before, and they've released quite a few seats that were ground breakers (the Laptop, Marathon, and Super Elite come to mind).

[jwren]

hmm we'll see.. I still have this feeling...so I am not taking that chance cause my son needs this seat asap to keep his package from being permanantly squished...ouch...! The buckle on the MA is...well let's say ...was not meant for big little boys..:rolleyes::D

I doubt it. Britax has never had that problem before, and they've released quite a few seats that were ground breakers (the Laptop, Marathon, and Super Elite come to mind).

[seamonkeys]

I will post after my order is in...;)

Ok, you haven't said where you're pre-ordering from!

[jwren]

it hasn't updated online just yet, they said tonight or tomorrow, but as soon as I can preorder I will post...hehe you are waiting like me, I keep hitting refresh to see if it updates...;) are we addicts for carseats or what lol...:D

[UlrikeDG]

The buckle on the MA is...well let's say ...was not meant for big little boys..:rolleyes::D

Again, not my experience. My son used the MA until he was 7 years old. His penis was never an issue. :shrug-shoulders:

[jwren]

The buckle is "right there" It has no extension to rise away from "there" so it literally sits right on "it"...:whistle: and the depth of the strap itself is tight as well. maybe you have a little little boy, I have a big little boy... everyone is different..;) My son is in the 95% tile for his age. he is not fat but just a big little boy...and he is only 4 1/2..


Again, not my experience. My son used the MA until he was 7 years old. His penis was never an issue. :shrug-shoulders:

[finleysmommy]

Someone said babyonthegoathome.com would have it for pre order like 2 days ago. Any truth to this?

[UlrikeDG]

I have a tall and skinny little boy (well, he's almost 10 now, but he's always been tall and skinny).

Regardless, moving the buckle forward changes the crash dynamics of the seat. I just started a thread (http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=39906) to discuss this.

Also, "penis" is not a bad word. You can use it on this site.

[jwren]

Lol I didn't know I am always getting in trouble here so I thought I better watch my words. lol..:D

anyway I would be interested to see what they post on your thread, as this has been a "BIG" issue for us...

I have a tall and skinny little boy (well, he's almost 10 now, but he's always been tall and skinny).

Regardless, moving the buckle forward changes the crash dynamics of the seat. I just started a thread (http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=39906) to discuss this.

Also, "penis" is not a bad word. You can use it on this site.

[Gypsy]

I just showed my dh the black/red pic and he said for me to cancel our order on the 2nd GN and he wants that one! He also said to go ahead and get the matching Monarch for our dd! I'm so excited I can bearly stand it! I need to get some more info on the Monarch before I order it though (like seat depth). DD only has a 17in torso but very long legs.

I'm getting the Monterey (pink) for dd, it has a red/black pattern too & I like it MUCH more than the Monarch.

I'm considering the Frontier for ds, but won't order until the Sept sale when there have been tons of reviews & pictures and all of the "problems" and "complaints" will be known by then.

[UlrikeDG]

I'm considering the Frontier for ds, but won't order until the Sept sale when there have been tons of reviews & pictures and all of the "problems" and "complaints" will be known by then.

That was* my plan, too. I'll let someone else find all the little flaws with the Frontier before I shell out any money for it.

*I realized recently that my second Marathon expires Nov 2009, not 2008 like I had thought, so I probably won't be buying anything until next September's sale now.

[crunchierthanthou]

It's back up on rightstart.com (http://www.rightstart.com/global/store/product~item~8546.html).

[pippi2077]

I am really thinking about this seat for DS once we turn him forward facing. I still have some time. He hasn't gained much this winter. I also don't want to be one of the first buyers. I need to know from others how it fits in vehicles. So, who has a 2006 F150 that will try it in the middle front? Anyone? Stefanie

[singingpond]

Has anyone heard if BRU is expected to carry the Frontier? I'm hoping they will, because of the try-before-you-buy opportunity. On the other hand, they didn't stock the Regent until fairly recently, so I guess it's not a given that they will carry this new seat.....??

Katrin

[essnce629]

Oooo, I LOVE the red and black one! My son would love a "racecar seat!" I just got our Regent two weeks ago, but I may be selling it and our Boulevard to get two Frontiers!!! I can't wait to hear the reviews.

[tweetykl]

Has anyone heard if BRU is expected to carry the Frontier? I'm hoping they will, because of the try-before-you-buy opportunity. On the other hand, they didn't stock the Regent until fairly recently, so I guess it's not a given that they will carry this new seat.....??

Katrin

I was there the other day and they guy told me that they are going to carry it but did not have a date for getting it yet. I like the try it before you buy it too.

We just bought the ss1 for dd and she is not born yet so we can wait until the Sept. sale easily to purchase this for ds. I am thinking the black and red would look nice for him.

[jwren]

Whooo Hoo! Just got this email from Christine..I asked her to email me when I could preorder... so she did...;)

It's up! http://hipmonkey.com/store/car-seats/britax/britax-frontier/prod_97.html

PS: It says that it will be available in 1-2w but I think that's generic as we all know it won't be out till the end of next month..I still pre-ordered it anyway in redrock...;)

[finleysmommy]

Do you think the price will change? I don't know how that works with pre-ordering. Makes me nervous.

[aisraeltax]

ok, i am totally jealous!!!!! we dont need one until at least sept/oct. so i really need to wait to see if they are on sale then.

[jwren]

I thought about asking that too, but I would imagine if that's how it worked that if it can go up it can also go down, and if you didn't like it you could always cancel your order before it ships... I may ask her that, but I think that's how it works.. I know she has already ordered several of each color so it's not like a special order..I just emailed her to ask for sure though...

Do you think the price will change? I don't know how that works with pre-ordering. Makes me nervous.

[kphil]

when you say end of them month, do you mean March or April?

Kirsten

[jwren]

I wrote the end of next month. meaning April..
when you say end of them month, do you mean March or April?

Kirsten

[Mommyto2]

Well, dd looked at the pictures and promptly said YUCK! so I am glad we got her the Regent.
It will be between this and the Nautilis for DS though when the baby takes over his Marathon. We should have at least 18 months for that though, so plenty of time for reviews, bugs to be worked out etc... (on both seats!) I do wish it had a cup holder or at least the mesh pockets like the Regent though, DD loves those and I can see it being a problem in the future if DS doesn't have something.

I do like the red though. I hope the wings aren't to confining and I can not wait to see pictures with kids in it!

[crunchierthanthou]

It does have a cup holder (or two?) that folds into the base. You can see it on the side.

[kphil]

I wrote the end of next month. meaning April..
Oops, I missed that in my excitement :o.

Kirsten

[scatterbunny]

I don't like that it weighs 25 pounds and we have no confirmation one way or the other on LATCH in booster mode, do we?

I do like the armrests, though, doesn't it look like they flip up? I love that feature of the B510, and I think it's pretty much the only redeeming feature of the Evenflo Big Kid. :p

[HEVY]

I didn't like this seat a first but am really liking it now, would love to pre-order :(

[thepeach80]

I should read the other thread, but is anyone else concerned about using this seat as a booster? It doesn't seem the belt would get very close to the child w/ that shell.

[scatterbunny]

I should read the other thread, but is anyone else concerned about using this seat as a booster? It doesn't seem the belt would get very close to the child w/ that shell.

It's somewhat similar to the Monarch's design, isn't it? The belt fit dd okay in the Monarch. What concerns me most is using it in booster mode if it does not utilize lower anchors or a top tether, since it weighs a whopping 25 pounds.

[Mommyto2]

It does have a cup holder (or two?) that folds into the base. You can see it on the side.

Thanks, I totally missed that part.

[crunchierthanthou]

Some posters have said that Britax CS verbally confirmed the LATCH capabilities in booster mode, but I've yet to see it in writing. I'm still hoping. :)

[joolsplus3]

I don't like that it weighs 25 pounds and we have no confirmation one way or the other on LATCH in booster mode, do we?

I do like the armrests, though, doesn't it look like they flip up? I love that feature of the B510, and I think it's pretty much the only redeeming feature of the Evenflo Big Kid. :p

Yeah, the armrests flip up :). Someone I know said they heard from Britax it'll be LATCHable (in booster mode), but that was the prototype, so there's a small teeny chance it won't be..cross your fingers.

[joolsplus3]

It's somewhat similar to the Monarch's design, isn't it? The belt fit dd okay in the Monarch. What concerns me most is using it in booster mode if it does not utilize lower anchors or a top tether, since it weighs a whopping 25 pounds.

Yeah, the belt comes down between the headwings, just like the Monarch. If there's one thing Britax does pretty well, it's belt fit with boosters :thumbsup:

[thepeach80]

Yeah, the belt comes down between the headwings, just like the Monarch. If there's one thing Britax does pretty well, it's belt fit with boosters :thumbsup:

That makes sense, thanks. I've never been able to see the Monarch irl yet. :(

It's somewhat similar to the Monarch's design, isn't it? The belt fit dd okay in the Monarch. What concerns me most is using it in booster mode if it does not utilize lower anchors or a top tether, since it weighs a whopping 25 pounds.

I just read that on the other thread. That is one heavy seat to be pushing behind a child. This is not one seat I'm jumping at buying, but I don't really need it right now either. Now if Britax gave tech discounts like SKJP did, lol!

[keri1292]

I'm tempted to pre-order. Do you think that the slot height will be comparable to the Regent since this will be installed more upright? I think that I'll wait for the first reviews, but I really think I like it. I didn't at first, but it has grown on me. And it's not even out yet. :rolleyes:

[crunchierthanthou]

more info on goore's blog (http://gooresblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/britax-frontier-we-finally-have.html)

notably:

You must secure the top tether when using the seat with the 5 pt harness

and

In my opinion this seat will end up replacing the Britax Regent which is enormous and does not easily fit in many cars. It will also take over the Britax Monarch sales as people will not need to purchase a booster seat if they already purchased the Britax Frontier.

and the product info on goores.com (http://www.goores.com/goores/product.asp?s_id=0&pf_id=PAOHIDDBKFFLGAFO)

Rotating soft-touch armrests
Retractable cup and snack holders (plural)

nothing on booster mode LATCH capabilities though.

[melniemi]

Do we know a shoulder height in booster mode?

[luvmy2]

Well my ds loves the red one!

[zactayaus]

Do you think that the slot height will be comparable to the Regent since this will be installed more upright? I think that I'll wait for the first reviews, but I really think I like it. I didn't at first, but it has grown on me. And it's not even out yet. :rolleyes:

Top slot for harness is 18.25" says the specs on "Safe and Secure's" website. (Sorry I don't know how to add the website link here).

[jwren]

Here is what hipmonkey.com shows:

Dimensions:

19.5 inches W x 22 inches H x 26.5 inches D
Harnessed (Headrest Extended) 19.5 inches H x 27.75 inches H x 27 inches D
Booster 19.5 x 22 x 20
Booster (Headrest Extended) 19.5 x 25.25 x 20

Interior Product Dimensions:

Seating Compartment Height 21.5 inches
Seat Area Depth 13.5 inches
Seat Area Width 12 inches
Shoulder Width 15.25 inches
Harness Slot Heights 12.25, 13.1, 14, 14.9, 15.75, 16.5, 17.4 and 18.25 inches
Buckle Strap Depth 5, 6.5 and 8.25 inches

http://hipmonkey.com/store/car-seats/britax/britax-frontier/prod_97.html

[keri1292]

Thanks! And Britax measures the Regent at 19.1. So, I'm thinking that the lack of a recline bar will actually even them out since the recline takes some growning room away and they may be outgrown at the same time, KWIM? I can get the Regent in my 3rd row, but it is a P~A~I~N. I can't wait to see this puppy reviewed here! :love:

[Mama!]

Darn you people making me lust after another carseat. :p

[jwren]

ok here is the deal on the price...

I just received this via email from Christine at hipmonkey...HTH;)

the lowest price we are allowed to sell the seat for is set by Britax (and this is true of all their seats) which is what I have the Frontier listed at right now. I really don't see the price changing unless Britax themselves changes the MSRP which I highly doubt they will do since they have already sent out order forms with the MSRP listed at 279.99. :)