Sad news article :( Good example for ERF

[CRS]

My friend sent me a link to this article.. Firstly, I'll just say that here in my country, there isn't always the possibility or availability of seats that would have allowed these poor parents to ERF their daughter... but wow, WHAT a tragedy. I noticed the last sentence in the story :( http://www.stuff.co.nz/4144421a10.html It's so sad, I bet, had these parents known and had the seats available to them, they probably would have used them, sounds like she's on the road to recovery though!

[Jordynsmama]

That is a GREAT article. You never read about articles that end with a comment that educational and progressive. :thumbsup:That makes me realize how seriously important erf is. I am keeping that article for friends. Thank you!

[Patriot201]

Wow. That's sad!

Great article. :)

[katiesmommy]

I got that article on the myspace board. I sent it out as a bulletin as well as posted it as a blog.

[AdventureMom]

Wow. Thanks for posting this...

[Morganthe]

What is "hooning- around" and "sunstrike"? Is it saying that the other driver was reckless and not following road rules?

Poor little tike. I hope her recovery goes well.

[ThreeBeans]

I imagine sunstrike is what we call 'glare'...you know, when you're momentarily blinded by the setting or rising sun?


What a sad story. Are there really counties in New Zealand that require a 2 year old to rear-face? That would be so cool! :thumbsup:

[Melizerd]

I thought that it meant sun glare too.

I figure hooning around is doing something else, like goofing around, talking on a phone or looking for a CD or something other then driving.

[Tiffanie]

sad story :( But a powerful one

[JessicaS]

Thanks for that article. I posted it on another message board I'm on where most people are apathetic to ERFing. Hopefully this will change a couple people's minds.

[crunchierthanthou]

That is such a sad story and a powerful example.



What a sad story. Are there really counties in New Zealand that require a 2 year old to rear-face? That would be so cool! :thumbsup:

I think the article said countries- like Sweden.

[Laurenc0101]

What a sad story! But wow, what a final statement! I hope that precious little girl continues to do well on her road to recovery!

[lovinwaves]

awww poor baby :(

I hope she makes a full recovery.....

[chaoticoctopus]

What a powerful closing statement! An incredible story about one very strong family. :love:

[LimePink]

What a sad story, but the fact that she is alive is truley a miracle. It's awesome they put that last bit in the article about ERF, I'll save this link. Finally have some 'proof' that it's safer. People I know just don't seem to think their kids' necks/spines can be hurt that bad.

[wendytthomas]

This was posted on my local mommies board and because of it someone asked if extended rear facing meant past 1 and 20 and decided to turn her child back rear facing. :-) Well, once she had the "official" stance from the AAP. I hate the AAP on so many levels, but on this we see eye to eye.

Wendy

[EzzieMom]

Poor little girl:(
I'm SO happy I know better now, before something like that happened to me/us. I had my younger DD FFing bc...well...just bc I could, I thought it was easier, more convient for me/her etc. etc.. But after finding out that it was better to keep her Rfing as long as possible I put her back to Rfing. And I'm so happy I did. Accidents happen all the time. You just never know when something like this could happen to you.
Thanks for posting this. Now I too have proof for all those family members/friends who think I'm a worry wart, over protective, being ridiculos, that it really is safer and I'm actually doing the right thing.

[Susan in MI]

Wow! Thanks for posting that. I've saved it in my favorites.

I wish our paper had had a good article when the family around here was hit head on in December. The mom and dad and ff 3 yo were all critically injured, the 3 yo with spinal cord injury, and the rf 9 mo was fine.

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[NZ Child Restraints]

In hindisight the person who caused the accident should have had sunglasses on.

Why do so few people drive without sunglasses on anyway?

Also the article does not mention where in the car she was placed. While the back seat is the safest, she may not have been centre position and this could have reduced such impact. Also were the seat belts tight enough?

Regardless, SNS are in no hurry to bring higher harnessing seats in NZ, because the seats are made in Australia and their laws do not require children to be rear facing beyond about 6 months old. If their laws change, the seats are likely to change. I hope that with the arrival of the Brio and True fit they pick up their act and strart providing. They will miss out on some sales otherwise. Also I know of a few more companies who are looking to import higher harnessing seats in 2008. I also know where Evenflo store their seats, and where the importer works, so I will hopefully chat to him and talk him into bringing in the ETA or similar into NZ.

What a pitty that Brio Zento's cost too much and NZ expects an additional standards to be added to American seats and charge high amounts for this to be added. If they were to wipe this we would have plenty of seats that rear face more than the SNS seats do.
Then you have to add the education to it. You cannot say for sure if the family in question would have kept her rear facing at 24 months old anyway. Too many people view it as a "baby thing".

Lets hope the arrival of the Brios help people to put two and two together.

I have not heard anymore about the victims progress. I am sure she is doing extremely well.

Lets hope the next time i get an emergency care child they are small enough to be rear-faced so I can spread the message while out and out.

[CRS]

Also the article does not mention where in the car she was placed. While the back seat is the safest, she may not have been centre position and this could have reduced such impact. Also were the seat belts tight enough?

The article also doesn't mention if the crash was from the side or "head on" so whether or not she was in the middle or not perhaps would have made little to no difference anyway, who knows really huh. And no, of course no one knows the circumstances, seatbelts tight enough etc. The point is that it's a good example for people to practice ERF and as I pointed out in my first post "Firstly, I'll just say that here in my country, there isn't always the possibility or availability of seats that would have allowed these poor parents to ERF their daughter".

NZ expects an additional standards to be added to American seats and charge high amounts for this to be added. If they were to wipe this we would have plenty of seats that rear face more than the SNS seats do.
Then you have to add the education to it. You cannot say for sure if the family in question would have kept her rear facing at 24 months old anyway. Too many people view it as a "baby thing".

I think it's a good thing for NZ to put "additional standards" on the seats, it's exactly what Canada does as well. The standards/manufacturers in the US are self regulated and I think it's great to safe guard NZ consumers by requiring proof that the seats do actually comply with safety standards. :)

And no, more then likely there wouldn't have been the education or inclination to keep her rear-facing, in hindsight I'm sure they would have had they known what would happen. I just posted the link to the article to encourage others to practice ERF, that these kinds of injuries do happen, not really about what the family could have done and whether or not they would have done it any way, it's too late for them but hopefully their story can help someone else :)

[Simplysomething]

Why do so few people drive without sunglasses on anyway?


Well, for one...prescription sunglasses aren't cheap. (Well, that's why I don't drive with sunglasses on. When I get a new pair of glasses, I'm hoping to get a pair of sunglasses too.)

Anyway, have there been any updates on that story? I apparently missed it the first time around.

(And in the US, none of our seats top out below 30 lbs rf'ing anymore, yet almost no one knows about rear-facing beyond the minimum.)

[Defrost]

Well, for one...prescription sunglasses aren't cheap. (Well, that's why I don't drive with sunglasses on. When I get a new pair of glasses, I'm hoping to get a pair of sunglasses too.)

Look into clip-ons. I know, I know, they sound awful because you picture those ugly one-size-fits-all cheapies that you can buy at the pharmacy, but mine are VERY nice. Some frames are built to have custom, matching, clip-on sunglasses. You can hardly tell they are clip-ons by looking at them (believe me, I asked everyone I knew when I first got mine!) They were an additional $80 when I got the glasses - about the same as an additional set of prescription sunglasses, but easier to store and MUCH easier to switch back & forth.

[Susan in MI]

Look into clip-ons. I know, I know, they sound awful because you picture those ugly one-size-fits-all cheapies that you can buy at the pharmacy, but mine are VERY nice. Some frames are built to have custom, matching, clip-on sunglasses. You can hardly tell they are clip-ons by looking at them (believe me, I asked everyone I knew when I first got mine!) They were an additional $80 when I got the glasses - about the same as an additional set of prescription sunglasses, but easier to store and MUCH easier to switch back & forth.

I got some of the magnetic sun glasses that matched my glasses last time. Then, I lost the sunglasses part. :mad: I picked up some clip ons at the pharmacy for $8, I think. They are nearly the size and shape of my glasses, not the one size fugly old ones. They make a variety of sizes/shapes now. they do have the wonky clip thingy between the eyes, but I got used to that fairly quickly. I'll be switching back to transisition lenses on my next pair with clip ons for the car, because transitions don't get dark enough in there.

[Synchro246]

Sounds like internal decapitation. . .

[CRS]

Anyway, have there been any updates on that story? I apparently missed it the first time around.

Not that I know of, hopefully the wee tot is doing well though :)

Sounds like internal decapitation. . .

It does, doesn't it.