Estimating RF recline angles... novel method [Archive] - Car Seat.Org - Carseat, Vehicle & Child Passenger Safety Forums

southpawboston

05-14-2007, 10:04 AM

this issue comes up from time to time. there are ways of estimating recline angle, a common one being to hold a piece of paper horizontally with your car on level ground, and just eyeballing the recline angle of the seat.

what i've been playing around with lately is something that seems to give reliable numbers. i take a picture of a carseat and open it in my CAD (computer-aided-design) software. then i draw a line along the side of the shell. the software spits back the angle of the line.

for this to work optimally, the pictures should be at or near a perfect straight-on profile shot of the carseat, shot at the same height as the carseat from an open rear passenger door, with the camera and car both level. the scale or size of the pic is not important.

i did this the other day for someone here, and used two photos taken from either side of the carseat. the pics weren't perfect, and the software still spit out numbers for each pic that were within 2 degrees of each other, so i think the method is pretty reliable, and probably near perfect if the pics are straight and level.

if anyone wants to get an estimate of their recline angle this way, just post a pic (or two or three, the more the better) here in this thread and i will post back with a picture of the line drawn through the seat and the calculated angle.

arly1983

05-14-2007, 10:06 AM

Ok, I will go get a snapshot or two and see what is what...

arly1983

05-14-2007, 10:19 AM

southpawboston

05-14-2007, 10:38 AM

Ok, here are the pictures. I posted links and because I didn want to edit the size of the pics.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s1/arly1983/Picture204.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s1/arly1983/Picture205.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s1/arly1983/Picture206.jpg

last pic not used because it wasn't level. first two pics were really good. each one was within 2 degrees of the other. on average, you have about a 38.3 degree recline. :)

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/arly204.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/arly205.jpg

arly1983

05-14-2007, 10:41 AM

Oh, is it that reclined???

Somebody remind me? Is 45 the max and 30 the min?? So that would make me somewhere in the middle?

Wow, tha means you could really be upright!

Thanks, southpawboston. :) That is so cool!

I had been wondering if it was too upright but it is not even close.

jen_nah

05-14-2007, 10:44 AM

That is pretty cool software. Now if we could only have something like that to use IRL checks.

kjcoggins0405

05-14-2007, 10:56 AM

This product is perfect IMHO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANGLE-MAGNETIC-LEVEL-SET-FIND-DEGREE-FINDER-MEASURING_W0QQitemZ250112944359QQihZ015QQcategoryZ 20766QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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southpawboston

05-14-2007, 10:59 AM

This product is perfect IMHO.

that would be perfect for seat checks!

rlsadc

05-14-2007, 11:09 AM

This product is perfect IMHO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANGLE-MAGNETIC-LEVEL-SET-FIND-DEGREE-FINDER-MEASURING_W0QQitemZ250112944359QQihZ015QQcategoryZ 20766QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

414

lol this is what aleahs physical therapist uses to measure the angle of her head tilt. defiantely a mutifaceted tool.

kjcoggins0405

05-14-2007, 11:11 AM

My husband used it to hang a cabinet in the bathroom this weekend. And of course I took one look at it and thought, geez I should take it outside to look at the recline on our carseats. :whistle:

kjcoggins0405

05-14-2007, 11:21 AM

Southpaw, maybe I could take pictures of my two seats with the angle thingy up to it, then you could use your software. We could see how close you are. :thumbsup:

Laurenc0101

05-14-2007, 11:23 AM

Southpaw, maybe I could take pictures of my two seats with the angle thingy up to it, then you could use your software. We could see how close you are. :thumbsup:

I was thinking that too! Just to see how close the two measurements are!

MamiOf3

05-14-2007, 11:26 AM

After seeing the other RF pics I think mine is REALLY reclined. The sad thing is I went to the seatcheck website and I went to the local state police dept. and the man listed on the seatcheck site is the one who inspected the install and said it was perfect :(

Sorry for the ramble. My son is 8 months old, about 23 pounds and 29-30 inches. Here are the pics. I'm so sorry they are HUGE :o

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k128/jalensmami/P5140574.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k128/jalensmami/P5140573.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k128/jalensmami/P5140568.jpg

southpawboston

05-14-2007, 11:41 AM

southpawboston

05-14-2007, 11:45 AM

oh, and a comment about comparing different methods: that's a good idea. it's always good to compare data from different methods, and see how close each method gets to the next. no one method is perfect, and sometimes it's good to get averages from different methods.

MamiOf3

05-14-2007, 11:50 AM

mamiof3, i just did the first pic since it seemed the most level. if you look at the left side door window line, it appears as the the pic may be slightly angled to the right. if that's true, than you could subtract about 1-2 degrees from the measurement i got.

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/mami01.jpg

Thank you so much. I did try to get it as level as I could but the baby was crying and I was trying to hold him and the camera at the same time.

tarynsmum

05-14-2007, 12:22 PM

I'm posting pics as soon as DD goes down for her nap. I have a feeling that her MA is reclined too much as well.

ETA: Here are the pictures. I *know* that it's reclined too much, now that I'm looking at it. Also, please tell me (although I know you all will anyway) if anything else is wonky.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g131/tarynsmum/P5140048.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g131/tarynsmum/P5140047.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g131/tarynsmum/P5140046.jpg

Also, I tried my hardest to get the camera as lined up as possible. I live on a hill, so I was basically tilting the camera so that the seat lined up. If it's not enough, I can re-take them, just let me know.

Mommy2Mya

05-14-2007, 04:21 PM

I just finished installing dd's carseat today after getting some tether advice, and I was wondering if you could do my pics too?:love: I'm not sure it it's too relined. It doesn't seem that way when she's in there, but I fiigured I'd find out. I took two pictures. I would have tried to maybe get better ones, but it's raining out. I didn't resize them because I wasn't sure how big you want them. Here they are(I'm not sure if you'll be able to click on them because I haven't figured out how to do that on this site yet):

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/eurobebe69/Marathon002.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/eurobebe69/Marathon001.jpg

Mommy2Mya

05-14-2007, 04:22 PM

Oh yay! You can click on them:p

southpawboston

05-14-2007, 04:55 PM

southpawboston

05-14-2007, 05:02 PM

Mommy2Mya

05-14-2007, 05:39 PM

Oh fabulous thank you so much! So is that fine for recline then? Or should it be a bit more upright? My daughter is 20 months.

Starlight

05-14-2007, 06:38 PM

i rotated #47 and #48 to try to approximate level. here's what i come up with: about 47.2 degrees, avg of the three pics:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/tarynsmum.jpg
This seat is reclined too much - it should be no more than 45 degrees, and more upright is preferred for an older baby.

Also, I can't tell... is it not sitting fully on the base? It looks like, near the seat bight, that it is off the seat a little bit... is that just me seeing something? The base should be sitting fully on the seat.

tarynsmum

05-14-2007, 07:11 PM

This seat is reclined too much - it should be no more than 45 degrees, and more upright is preferred for an older baby.

Also, I can't tell... is it not sitting fully on the base? It looks like, near the seat bight, that it is off the seat a little bit... is that just me seeing something? The base should be sitting fully on the seat.

Yeah, DH installed it, which is why I knew it was reclined too much (I want it way higher). I really didn't think it was that off though - yikes. Good thing we haven't been out in the past few days (since it's been re-installed). It's not off the seat; I thought the same thing when I saw the pics on the camera - the fabric of the seat is a darker gray; it's basically an optical illusion.

Thanks again for doing the angles for me. I'll post some more after I re-install to make sure it's better.

lynsgirl

05-14-2007, 07:29 PM

I just finished installing dd's carseat today after getting some tether advice, and I was wondering if you could do my pics too?:love: I'm not sure it it's too relined. It doesn't seem that way when she's in there, but I fiigured I'd find out.

I see you got your angle analysis ;) , but just to my eyes alone and seeing and installing a lot of seats, I wanted to give you a :thumbsup: , since it looked great to me!

Mommy2Mya

05-14-2007, 07:39 PM

I see you got your angle analysis ;) , but just to my eyes alone and seeing and installing a lot of seats, I wanted to give you a :thumbsup: , since it looked great to me!

Thank you:D

skaterbabscpst

05-15-2007, 12:05 AM

This product is perfect IMHO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANGLE-MAGNETIC-LEVEL-SET-FIND-DEGREE-FINDER-MEASURING_W0QQitemZ250112944359QQihZ015QQcategoryZ 20766QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

414

I've worked with those from time to time, they can be a bit tricky IMO. If you don't measure from the right place the angle can be wrong. The 45* angle is (according to my instructors) for the child's head, not the seat shell. So the device goes inseat the seat of the CR.

Too confusing....

Judi

05-15-2007, 01:10 AM

It like the angle thingy. Thinking of buying it! teehee

papooses

05-15-2007, 09:21 AM

This should have been in the Carseat Safety area so I could give it a 5 star rating :) System won't let me give you any points since I gave you some about the driver's manual/highway thread :rolleyes: At least not till I give someone else points & I'm getting the same restriction for almost everyone (apparently I keep giving the same people points without noticing: at least that means I'm judging by content rather than popularity) :whistle:

kjcoggins0405

05-15-2007, 09:33 AM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/86357316@N00/sets/72157600217306961/

Here are two of my seats.

southpawboston

05-15-2007, 10:19 AM

skaterbabs brings up a good point about where to measure the recline angle... the backside of a carseat is very variable, sometimes curvy, and rarely flat, so judging the placement of the arbitrary straight line for angle calculcation is kind of a fuzzy science to begin with. for the britaxes, i am using the crease that runs along the side of the shell, which *seems* to approximate the torso angle, but whether or not it reflects the angle of the child's head/neck, i really don't know. it really is just an estimate, but at least it's one step closer to quantitative than holding a piece of paper.

southpawboston

05-15-2007, 10:33 AM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/86357316@N00/sets/72157600217306961/

Here are two of my seats.

your angle tool measurements on your flickr site were hard for me to read; how do these numbers compare? both of these photos seem to be off-center (taken a little too far to the left of the seat), so i'm not sure how accurate these numbers are:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/kjcoggins.jpg

kjcoggins0405

05-15-2007, 10:37 AM

If I remember correctly the Crappysport was 25 and the MA was 33.

I have a FPSV on the way for the Prizm and the crappysport is moving to a corolla.

southpawboston

05-15-2007, 10:46 AM

If I remember correctly the Crappysport was 25 and the MA was 33.

2 degrees difference on the crappysport and 5 degrees on the britax ain't bad!!! shows that both methods are valid. :thumbsup:

tarynsmum

05-15-2007, 12:14 PM

OK, I used the tips from upstairs and re-installed the MA last night. What do ya'll think?

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g131/tarynsmum/after.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g131/tarynsmum/after2.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g131/tarynsmum/after3.jpg

Again, sorry about the incline. It's Pittsburgh, ya'll.

southpawboston

05-15-2007, 12:19 PM

tarynsmum

05-15-2007, 01:31 PM

Thanks! I thought it was a lot better (the top of the seat isn't between the front seats now). I normally have it more reclined, but I thought DD would like it more upright. That's all good, right? (Oh, and I know my tether wasn't connected in the picture, I took them mid-install).

southpawboston

05-15-2007, 02:05 PM

i'm not a tech, but 32 degrees is just fine for older children who can hold their head up. our RF triumph was at about 30 degrees when DD2 was only 5 months old.

Tara

05-15-2007, 03:06 PM

Ok, I'm intrigued...I'll try to get pics of mine up soon :)

Patriot201

05-15-2007, 10:56 PM

These are in three different cars:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w95/patriot20171/DSC_1989_edited.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w95/patriot20171/DSC_1974_edited.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w95/patriot20171/DSC_1694-1.jpg

tiggercat

05-16-2007, 12:53 PM

I was looking through my carseat pics, and not one of them is exactly from the side or level. Heh. So I had to go outside and take pictures in the rain ;-)

Here are today's pics (the third is probably the best)
http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?userid=85554&cdate=20070516&ctime=112547

I'm interested in seeing what you come up with. Since she was so upright in the Corolla to allow for a front passenger, every time I look at it in the Camry it looks so reclined to me.

Can you use this one? It might need to be rotated to level. This is when we first got the Camry.
http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?userid=85554&cdate=20070220&ctime=101552
this one in the Corolla for her as a toddler, might be too skewed to use.
http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?userid=85554&cdate=20061111&ctime=131440
and this one at the max recline we could get in the Corolla.
http://www.dropshots.com/photos/85554/20060414/164926.jpg

southpawboston

05-16-2007, 12:58 PM

i'll get back to patriot's and tiggercat's pics later today :)

Patriot201

05-16-2007, 02:58 PM

thanks!!!!:) :)

southpawboston

05-16-2007, 09:08 PM

These are in three different cars:

the top right pic had to be rotated for the window ledge to appear horizontal. that's a pretty major upright seat in that first pic!! most upright one so far!

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/patriot.jpg

southpawboston

05-16-2007, 09:22 PM

I was looking through my carseat pics, and not one of them is exactly from the side or level. Heh. So I had to go outside and take pictures in the rain ;-)

tiggercat, starting with your pics i'm not cropping the photos after rotating them, saves me a step and also so you can see firsthand how much they were rotated, if any:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/tiggercat.jpg

Patriot201

05-16-2007, 10:08 PM

Thanks, southpaw!!! :) :)

Melizerd

05-21-2007, 10:17 AM

I hope these pics are good for you to test.

I took the seat out and reinstalled it. I'm much happier with the install this time. I can always adjust the angle with the tether some if I need to.

Thanks so much for doing this for us!

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/melickit/Misc%20pics/carseatangle2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

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mommy2one

05-21-2007, 12:55 PM

This is a great tool I love seeing the angles on the pictures. It's helped me install my seat better.

ThreeBeans

05-21-2007, 01:10 PM

This is so cool. :o

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/Joannarachel/?action=view&current=100_1363.jpg

and

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/Joannarachel/?action=view&current=100_1362.jpg

southpawboston

05-21-2007, 10:44 PM

I hope these pics are good for you to test.

the camera angle is a bit too high and to the left, so i don't know how accurate the measurements are, but both pics gave very similar numbers... the carseat appears way too reclined:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/melizerd.jpg

southpawboston

05-21-2007, 10:52 PM

This is so cool. :o

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/Joannarachel/?action=view&current=100_1363.jpg

and

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/Joannarachel/?action=view&current=100_1362.jpg

both pics gave very similar numbers:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/threebeans.jpg

ThreeBeans

05-21-2007, 10:54 PM

Yay! I was worried the other day I had it too upright. Thank you so much! :thumbsup:

snowbird25ca

05-22-2007, 12:54 AM

Wow, this is neat. :)

Not sure if this is usable or not, but I'm curious for future reference for when we put ds in the MA rf'ing.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/snowbird25ca/Saturn%20Outlook/outlookdeliverypictures007.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/snowbird25ca/Saturn%20Outlook/outlookdeliverypictures016.jpg

& this one was in our ION. Again not sure if it's usable, but it seemed quite upright to me so I'm curious if it was as upright as it seemed. :thumbsup:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/snowbird25ca/car%20seats/jan282007013.jpg

Melizerd

05-22-2007, 08:39 AM

ooh Ok thanks I think I might have done it with the tether because it looked too upright. I guess my first thought was better. I'll repost pics that are better when I fix it. Thank you!

I see Three Beans pics and I can definitely tell I'm too reclined compared to that pic. I'll have to go out and fix it.

Judi

05-22-2007, 09:31 AM

southpawboston

05-23-2007, 09:04 PM

If you don't mind helping again...

I had to re-install my MA today and just wanted to make sure it's not too upright. It seems to be, but I knew you would be able to put a degree number on it for sure...

THANKS!!!

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/djma.jpg

djma

05-23-2007, 09:09 PM

Thanks! I knew there was a thread around here somewhere.

One problem - I can't read the number it's putting on there. Is it 30 or 38?

Thanks again!!!!

ThreeBeans

05-23-2007, 09:17 PM

30.6!

djma

05-23-2007, 09:21 PM

30.6!

Thanks! It could just be that I've been staring at this computer for faaaaaaarrrrrr too long!! :D

southpawboston

05-23-2007, 10:30 PM

Thanks! It could just be that I've been staring at this computer for faaaaaaarrrrrr too long!! :D

lol, if you had a compass lying around you could hold it up to the lines on the pic and get the number that way :D

CRS

05-24-2007, 03:28 AM

Ohhh would you mind doing mine?

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s88/carseatsafety/angle.jpg

Thanks!

southpawboston

05-24-2007, 08:47 AM

Ohhh would you mind doing mine?

no prob:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/CRS.jpg

CRS

05-24-2007, 05:28 PM

no prob:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/CRS.jpg

oh wow!!! I can have it MORE upright if I want! It lets me do between 40° and 10°

SamPacey&Joshua

05-25-2007, 12:23 AM

Alright, I caved, lol...I went out and took pictures of the boys' seats today. I know they look like they need to be rotated, but they don't...my back windows are just really slanted. And I know they're not great pics...I don't have a lot of room to take them, so I did the best I could!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/sanka_03/Carseat%20Installations/Britax%20Marathon%20and%20Decathlon/DSCN8362.jpghttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/sanka_03/Carseat%20Installations/Britax%20Marathon%20and%20Decathlon/DSCN8365.jpg

southpawboston

05-25-2007, 09:32 AM

yes, that window angle is quite deceiving... here ya go...

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/sampaceyjoshua.jpg

SamPacey&Joshua

05-25-2007, 11:35 AM

How come it says the black one is more reclined than the blue one...or am I just confused by the numbers?

southpawboston

05-25-2007, 02:12 PM

well i didn't rotate the pics at all because you stated the pics were level. but looking back again at the two pics, it appears that the first pic is in fact not level, and tilted in the direction of recline. i can see this by looking at the angle of the rear side window. if i go back and flip the first picture and then rotate it so that the window is at the same angle as the second picture, this is what i get:

you can see the green line i drew which shows the window angle being the same in both pics *after* rotating the first pic (you can see by the difference in recline angle before and after rotating the pic, that the pic had to be rotated about 3 degrees).

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/spj2.jpg

SamPacey&Joshua

05-25-2007, 02:22 PM

Okay, I gotcha! I noticed that too when I was looking at those pictures (that the 1st did need rotated a little). Thanks!

Kangaroos

05-25-2007, 03:49 PM

I would appreciate it if you would do mine as well...

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u48/Kangarooz/IMG_2078.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

SamPacey&Joshua

05-25-2007, 11:10 PM

And I'm going to be annoying and post their other 2 seats...I took pictures today. I am 99.9% sure they do not need to be rotated this time, lol! The number should be the same or very close to each other on these 2 seats.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/sanka_03/Carseat%20Installations/Britax%20Marathon%20and%20Decathlon/DSCN8392.jpghttp://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/sanka_03/Carseat%20Installations/Britax%20Marathon%20and%20Decathlon/DSCN8393.jpg

momof2kiddos

05-28-2007, 10:46 AM

Is there any way you can figure out the angle with these pics?If so I would really love you too:)

Ingnore the messy car it is from dh this last work week and I haven't cleaned it yet:o

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t96/jpullin919/100_6758.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t96/jpullin919/100_6757.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t96/jpullin919/100_6752.jpg

oxeye

05-28-2007, 09:33 PM

Do you mind checking this one for me? :) I'm thinking I could put her a little more upright.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/oxeye/CIMG1825-1.jpg

southpawboston

05-28-2007, 09:53 PM

I would appreciate it if you would do mine as well...

And I'm going to be annoying and post their other 2 seats...I took pictures today.

Is there any way you can figure out the angle with these pics?If so I would really love you too:)

here are the results for all three of you, in one combined pic.

momof2kiddos, i rotated the second pic of yours because it didn't appear level compared with the first one, and the last pic of the cowmooflage seat wasn't useable because of the camera angle (too high).

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/combined.jpg

ThreeBeans

05-28-2007, 09:56 PM

Poor SPB is being such a good sport :p

southpawboston

05-28-2007, 10:01 PM

Do you mind checking this one for me? :) I'm thinking I could put her a little more upright.

looks pretty good.

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/oxeye.jpg

bectoo2

05-28-2007, 10:26 PM

Can you check mine when you have a chance?

oxeye

05-28-2007, 10:34 PM

looks pretty good.

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/oxeye.jpg

Ooh, thank you!! I really appreciate that you're helping us all out with this. :D

snowbird25ca

05-29-2007, 02:21 AM

Can you check ds's for me please? Wondering how accurate the indicator is on the seat and we just reinstalled it today.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/snowbird25ca/car%20seats/12maymisc002.jpg

Kangaroos

05-29-2007, 07:11 PM

southpawboston - Thank you so much! I really appreciate your help!

Patriot201

05-29-2007, 07:29 PM

Poor SPB is being such a good sport :p

I agree!!!

You are great, SPB!!!!!!!!!

southpawboston

05-29-2007, 08:03 PM

Can you check mine when you have a chance?

Can you check ds's for me please? Wondering how accurate the indicator is on the seat and we just reinstalled it today.

snowbird, unfortunately yours is hard to estimate because i can't tell from the profile of your infant seat where the child's back rests along the seat. the side wings are in the way (the britaxes have a nice visible ridge along the side that runs roughly parallel with the child's back). i drew three lines for you. you can take a close look at your seat and try to match up the best line with the way your child actually sits in the seat. maybe if you lift the handle you can see some sort of ridge that runs along the seat that i can go by?

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/combined2.jpg

momof2kiddos

05-29-2007, 08:30 PM

Thank you so much!!;)

southpawboston

05-29-2007, 08:39 PM

I took my seats out to clean out my car this weekend and re-installed Teagan's RA more upright. Can you check it for me? What do you think? She's 17 months. It seems so upright to me when she's in it, but doesn't seem so bad in the pics???

Thanks, Amy

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/amy919.jpg

bectoo2

05-29-2007, 11:37 PM

Can you check mine when you have a chance?
Attached Thumbnails

Amaris

05-30-2007, 02:45 PM

I just went to take pics of our safeseat for this but I'm not sure it's going to work. There is a ridge on the outside of the seat but it doesn't match up with where the baby's back would be in the seat. If it did then in these pics it would seem like the baby is laying almost flat, and that definately would not be the case. I'm not sure if you can do anything with them, but I moved the handle and canopy out of the way just in case. Well, I do have 2 pics, but my camera batteries just died so I'll have to recharge them before I can get the other one uploaded and resized. This is the one that is even with the car, the other is with the bottom of the seat level. I wasn't sure which needed to be level for this to work!

luvmy2

06-01-2007, 05:27 PM

Could you check my seat for me? TIA!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/brea_gregory/100_0372.jpg

luvmy2

06-03-2007, 09:55 AM

:thumbsup:

joolsplus3

06-03-2007, 12:42 PM

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/amy919.jpg

I'd use the recline mechanism on the seat and brace it against the front seatback, if it were my seat (it's in the upright position...)

papooses

06-03-2007, 10:34 PM

Britax Marathon ~ 2000 Nissan Maxima / 1994 Dodge Dakota / 1990 Chevy Lumina

I think this is in the Maxima :confused:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r47/ConnorHalley/CIMG0185.jpghttp://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r47/ConnorHalley/CIMG0187-1.jpg

THANKS!

southpawboston

06-03-2007, 10:53 PM

Can you check mine when you have a chance?
Attached Thumbnails

sorry for the delay, i think i missed your post!

Could you check my seat for me? TIA!!!

Britax Marathon ~ 2000 Nissan Maxima / 1994 Dodge Dakota / 1990 Chevy Lumina

here are all the pics together in one composite:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/060307.jpg

An Aurora

06-03-2007, 11:57 PM

Would you mind checking mine, pretty please?

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1391/marathonru8.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2914/triumphrfoj4.jpg

I know the Triumph might be hard because you can't tell where the kiddo's back would be, so I added a pink line where it would be:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6741/triumphlinejc8.jpg

Thank you!!

luvmy2

06-04-2007, 09:03 PM

TY!! I will fix that.

Amaris

06-04-2007, 09:12 PM

southpawboston

06-04-2007, 09:22 PM

Would you mind checking mine, pretty please?
I know the Triumph might be hard because you can't tell where the kiddo's back would be, so I added a pink line where it would be:

i drew a line parallel with yours since you know where the child's back rests relative to that curved side.

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/060407.jpg

An Aurora

06-04-2007, 09:34 PM

Thank you so much!!

Karen

06-06-2007, 07:38 PM

Would you please do mine? I can take more pics if these aren't good. These are just some that I had already taken.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/karebear0684/IMG_0293.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/karebear0684/IMG_0292.jpg

luvmy2

06-06-2007, 08:33 PM

Here is my seat after I fixed it. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/brea_gregory/100_0381.jpg

Patriot201

06-06-2007, 09:08 PM

Papooses...

I know you said you posted those pics for another mama, but I have to ask about this one:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r47/ConnorHalley/CIMG0187-1.jpg

Was the pool noodle a "fix" for something? I am confused and feeling dumb... It looks like hardly any of the base is touching the seat. Am I just a total moron?

ThreeBeans

06-06-2007, 09:13 PM

You actually aren't allowed to use a pool noodle with Britax, methinks.

Judi

06-06-2007, 09:20 PM

No need for a noodle anyway. The tether fixes that.

southpawboston

06-06-2007, 11:04 PM

Hmmm, I just noticed that it didn't attach my pic in my last post! Sorry about that.....here it is, but again, I'm not sure you can do much with it. The ridge isn't where the child's back is in the seat.

i have no idea where to draw the line for this carseat. can you take a look at it and try to tape a piece of paper along what would be the area of the back support? then photograph it with the paper guide?

southpawboston

06-06-2007, 11:14 PM

Would you please do mine? I can take more pics if these aren't good. These are just some that I had already taken.

karen, was the car level? i rotated the pic so that the roofline of the house in the background was level, but then the car looked like it was sloping back. not sure if this is right, but oh well...

Here is my seat after I fixed it. :)

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/060607.jpg

Karen

06-06-2007, 11:18 PM

snowbird25ca

06-07-2007, 12:58 AM

Oh, you know what? It's not. Our driveway is on a slant. Tomorrow I can take one where I am parked out on the street. Thanks so much for doing it for me. I will get a better one. I just want to make sure that it is at least 30 degrees. He fell asleep today and his head fell forward. Oops!

If his head fell forward as opposed to towards the side, then it's too upright for him at any rate so I'd recline it a bit more regardless of what the actual angle # is. :thumbsup:

Karen

06-07-2007, 12:19 PM

If his head fell forward as opposed to towards the side, then it's too upright for him at any rate so I'd recline it a bit more regardless of what the actual angle # is. :thumbsup:

I did recline it a little more since then. Then he fell asleep with his head to the side and when it would start to fall he would pull it back to the side. He is so much happier when he is awake though!

Karen

06-07-2007, 08:08 PM

karen, was the car level? i rotated the pic so that the roofline of the house in the background was level, but then the car looked like it was sloping back. not sure if this is right, but oh well...

Here are new pics taken today. It was taken in the garage which I assume to be level. I took them from multiple angles in case one works better than another. It is more reclined than in the first picture. And for cuteness is a picture of DS sleeping in it (he was while I was taking pictures.)

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/karebear0684/IMG_0299.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/karebear0684/IMG_0301-1.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/karebear0684/IMG_0302.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/karebear0684/IMG_0303.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/karebear0684/IMG_0300.jpg

Thanks soooo much!

southpawboston

06-07-2007, 08:25 PM

Here are new pics taken today. It was taken in the garage which I assume to be level. I took them from multiple angles in case one works better than another. It is more reclined than in the first picture. And for cuteness is a picture of DS sleeping in it (he was while I was taking pictures.)

yes, he is a cutie :)

this one is a good shot:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/060707.jpg

luvmy2

06-11-2007, 06:57 PM

stayinhomewithmy4

06-11-2007, 07:10 PM

Is my seat still not reclined enough?

I think it's fine as long as he's comfy in it and his head isn't falling forward when he sleeps. It really doesn't look too upright to me.

luvmy2

06-12-2007, 01:21 PM

I think it's fine as long as he's comfy in it and his head isn't falling forward when he sleeps. It really doesn't look too upright to me.

Good! He hasn't complained once, and he does fall asleep on occasion but his head rests on the side.

Laurette

06-12-2007, 06:13 PM

Heres mine. I might get a few for friends too. Just for refrence... 45 is the max recline? What is the min? For newborns and infants it is 45 and for big babys and toddlers it is 35? I am getting confused.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j82/nlgm2006/gabe320.jpg

I know a mama who has a daughter that is the same age as my DS and I know her seat is far too reclined. I asked her about it and she said the tech helped her put it in and that her DD;s head falls forward if it isnt reclined like that. How would you deal with that situation?

Laurette

06-12-2007, 06:18 PM

Oops, that one might not be level. Here are two more.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j82/nlgm2006/CEC030.jpg

Ok, and if you don't mind... This is how it used to look, B4 I got advice from here. :)

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j82/nlgm2006/easter004.jpg

southpawboston

06-12-2007, 08:52 PM

Oops, that one might not be level. Here are two more.

going off of the second one:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/061207.jpg

mommycat

06-12-2007, 10:09 PM

southpawboston

06-12-2007, 10:33 PM

I know a mama who has a daughter that is the same age as my DS and I know her seat is far too reclined. I asked her about it and she said the tech helped her put it in and that her DD;s head falls forward if it isnt reclined like that. How would you deal with that situation?

techs make mistakes too. the tech who seatchecked our seat years ago installed our evenflo triumph in our elantra in the center position using borrowed outbard LATCH (not allowed by hyundai OR evenflo). he also told us that the top tether was optional. two MAJOR mistakes.

I'm not a tech and I am not sure really, but isn't reclining past 45* dangerous? So if it is more reclined than that I would think having the child's head propped with towels or something to keep it positioned would be a better option? Someone who knows more should take this one, maybe it got lost in all the pics though...

yes, 45 deg is the limit because more reclined than that and the child will have a tendency to slide toward the front of the car in a frontal crash, riding up on the shoulder section of the harness. at less recline angle, the child will just get pushed into the shell of the CRS, and crash forces are broadly distributed across the upper torso.

to keep the child's head form bobbing, you can use rolled up towels on the sides of the child's head to try to support it, as long as you are not placing the towels behind the head or between the child and any part of the harness.

katiesmommy

06-13-2007, 01:09 AM

See, now you've got me all curious because I'm thinking that my "eyeballing" is way way off. Please do mine. This was almost 2 months ago in my uncle's '05 Pontiac Montana, using the latch and tether. Refer to the yard across the street for the proper angle, I think it was pretty close the right on.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/sparkle_shadow/100_2505.jpg

oxeye

06-13-2007, 06:10 PM

Here's another one for you southpawboston. :) I pretty sure it's fine I just like seeing numbers! LOL

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/oxeye/CIMG1914.jpg

southpawboston

06-13-2007, 07:33 PM

Here's another one for you southpawboston. :) I pretty sure it's fine I just like seeing numbers! LOL

See, now you've got me all curious because I'm thinking that my "eyeballing" is way way off. Please do mine. This was almost 2 months ago in my uncle's '05 Pontiac Montana, using the latch and tether. Refer to the yard across the street for the proper angle, I think it was pretty close the right on.

here you go, ladies:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/061307.jpg

OwensMama

06-15-2007, 04:12 PM

Hey SPB, want to do my Radian? I see so many people saying they cant get the Radian more upright but I'm pretty sure mine is, so I was just wondering what the actual number would be. Thanks!

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e201/carseatgeek/Sunshine%20Kids%20Radian/IMG_3395.jpg

Misty-Bug

06-16-2007, 01:57 AM

this is a GREAT IDEA!! Can you help me too? I am having issues with my seat. Now I am not sure if it is reclined TOO much. This should be a pretty leveled pic. Let me know if it works. Thank you. I feel more comfortable where it is now. I would like to include the before pic so you can tell me if my gut was right about it not being reclined enough. Thanks
before I changed it:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/Misty-bug/Dancing012-2.jpg (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/Misty-bug/Dancing012-2.jpg)

then the fix I did today. (I really hope it is not reclined too much. MAN! I wish one of you techs lived near me! LOL)
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/Misty-bug/P6150218.jpg (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/Misty-bug/P6150218.jpg)

**edited the before pic cause I saw it was tiny. oops. LOL. thanks for doing this. I am really curious!

katiesmommy

06-16-2007, 01:46 PM

One more please, if you don't mind.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/sparkle_shadow/1111seat3.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/sparkle_shadow/1111seat2.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/sparkle_shadow/1111seat.jpg

southpawboston

06-16-2007, 06:38 PM

i've been on vacation the past few days so i'll catch up with these last few requests within a few days...

i haven't forgotten you :)

katiesmommy

06-16-2007, 10:10 PM

Thanks SPB!!

Melizerd

06-18-2007, 01:57 PM

Patriot201

06-18-2007, 02:25 PM

New install :D I feel like it's too reclined but I have weird seats with a big bump down and I can't pull the base out anymore and it's driving me nuts.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/melickit/Misc%20pics/carseat1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/melickit/Misc%20pics/carseat.jpg

I was just about to post to you to say "What cover is that? I haven't seen a striped Marathon cover!" Then (duh!) I realized the "stripes" were the sun through the back window. :p :p

Melizerd

06-18-2007, 02:39 PM

Lol I didn't even notice them until you said someting :D

Cindy&Connor

06-18-2007, 09:20 PM

Can you please do mine too? Thanks a bunch!

http://i19.tinypic.com/68bhshs.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/6aqyyhy.jpg

cay22

06-19-2007, 04:40 PM

Could you please check the angle on my seats too?
Thanks!
Kate

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa82/aaossey/100_2295.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa82/aaossey/100_2298.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa82/aaossey/100_2296.jpg

Lara

06-19-2007, 08:15 PM

Me too, please!

the last pic will probably be more reclined than the first two...I tightened the tether a little bit more for that one.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j119/Iluvbabies57/carseat%20pics/DSCF0536.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j119/Iluvbabies57/carseat%20pics/DSCF0537.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j119/Iluvbabies57/carseat%20pics/DSCF0538.jpg

Thanks! :)

CPS_obsessed_EMT

06-23-2007, 01:11 AM

Iluvbabies57, would you mind some other critiquing?

I'll be interested in seeing what his numbers come up as, because it does look to me to be too reclined (maybe borderline for an infant, but I wouldn't have it that far back for a toddler)

Also, how are you locking your seat? I see you are using a seatbelt with a sliding latchplate. Is it a switchable (ratcheting retractor)?? I see you are passing over the locking clip, so just wondering how you're locking it :)
Also, it doesn't look very tight. Does it move less than an inch when you grab it and shake it?

It also looks like the top tether is pretty loose. It doesn't have to be rock solid tight, but the slack does need to be removed, and it looks like it might still have a little slack in it.
I can't see what you have it tethered to, but just remember that it needs to be something that's bolted to the floor and can't move (so not to a seat that adjusts or a sliding bar etc)

And, you really should store the latch hooks in their pockets (under the cover) because in a crash, they could go flying around loose and strike your baby or someone else.

Sorry if all my questions are way off base, so I could be totally wrong on everything. There are so many things you can't tell just by looking at a picture, so I just want to make sure :) Hope you're not offended :o

Patriot201

06-23-2007, 07:49 AM

I'll be interested in seeing what his numbers come up as, because it does look to me to be too reclined (maybe borderline for an infant, but I wouldn't have it that far back for a toddler)

Especially that last one. I will be curious to see what the numbers say too. :) I could be way off. Sometimes our eyes play tricks on us. :)

Melizerd

06-23-2007, 08:17 AM

Ya it's why I reposted my pics too because I just "Feel" like it's too reclined but it's more upright then the last pic I posted.

snowbird25ca

06-24-2007, 02:23 AM

Also, how are you locking your seat? I see you are using a seatbelt with a sliding latchplate. Is it a switchable (ratcheting retractor)?? I see you are passing over the locking clip, so just wondering how you're locking it :)
Also, it doesn't look very tight. Does it move less than an inch when you grab it and shake it?

I can't answer the question, but we're seeing the side nearest the buckle, so if she's using the lock-off, it'd be the one on the other side of the seat anyways and she would just be threading over top of the lock-off that we're seeing. ;) (Britax does ok using either lock-off or both when you talk to them, but the manual says to use the lock-off on the opposite side of the buckle, so in most cases that's what people will use if using the lock-offs.)

Lara

06-24-2007, 08:14 PM

Nope, no offense taken!

Yes, it was very tight, and I was using the lock off on the other side. The tether is really tight, I used it to recline the seat more than it was when I first installed it. I see what you mean about it looking like it has slack in it... I wonder if its from the little creases in the tether where the clip normally is? IDK. But it was tight! And it was tethered to the drivers side seat track (actually, this pic is from the passenger side, but its the same on the drivers side. I think I took this when I first got the seat)

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j119/Iluvbabies57/IMG_0721.jpg

And...Its not being used for a kid;). I just wanted to see if I could get 45 degrees in my little car (nissan sentra). I did the folded paper test thing, and it looked level but I wanted real numbers! lol. I have a few friends with infants, so I kind of also wanted to do it JIC I had to take them somewhere and for some reason didn't have their bucket seat (this seemed to happen frequently when their older kids were little! so I wanted to be prepared)

Oh, the LATCH anchors are normally in use (my dd is ff outboard, she's 3). I didn't feel like putting them away cause I was just playing with the seat.

Again, no offense taken! Better safe than sorry!

CPS_obsessed_EMT

06-24-2007, 11:28 PM

Oh OK! That explains it :)

I had wondered if you were using the other lock off (or somthing else), that's why I asked! In the manual I just read it says "close the lock off closest to you", but I've heard that Britax has said all kinds of things about which lockoff to use :rolleyes:

I'm glad you didn't mind me double checking with things you didn't even ask about :) I remember long ago, when I first started posting here, I posted pictures of my snugride base install angle, and someone noticed that there was a folddown armrest where it was installed. Even though I was just asking about the angle, they cared enough to let me know I might want to make sure my vehicle manual said that was Ok (it was).
Anyway, I was really impressed that they cared enough to go over the rest of my install and point it out to me, so I try to do the same for others when I notice something that might be questionable (since we can't be there in person to see for sure)
:)

Lara

06-25-2007, 12:05 AM

Nope, don't mind at all! In fact, I try and do the same though you wouldn't know it here. I'm a regular over at babycenter's carseat board where I post a LOT more often than I do here! :)

Anyways, yeah I'm glad you said something. If I hadn't known, I would have been very thankful that someone pointed it out to me!

Melizerd

07-03-2007, 04:37 PM

bumping because I know SPB has been busy :D

southpawboston

07-03-2007, 04:46 PM

lol, i forgot all about this thread... :doh: okay, i'll try to play catchup tonight...

Melizerd

07-03-2007, 04:54 PM

lol, i forgot all about this thread... :doh: okay, i'll try to play catchup tonight...

Woohoo! I reposted pics after I reinstalled my awhile back. You know we're all just paranoid :D

Thanks!

Cindy&Connor

07-03-2007, 05:39 PM

Me again.

Ds is not strapped in so he's not sitting correctly in the seat. I don't think it matters but I just wanted to mention it.

Thanks

southpawboston

07-03-2007, 10:06 PM

okay, here's the latest batch. all grouped into one pic. i had to compress it since it is a large graphic, so some ot the numbers are kind of pixelated. i changed the colors of some to make them clearer. if i missed anybody, please let me know!

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/070307.jpg

Melizerd

07-03-2007, 10:10 PM

New install :D I feel like it's too reclined but I have weird seats with a big bump down and I can't pull the base out anymore and it's driving me nuts.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/melickit/Misc%20pics/carseat1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/melickit/Misc%20pics/carseat.jpg

Me please, THANK YOU! If you want me to put them right in the post I can do that for ya too.

TxMomma

07-03-2007, 11:11 PM

Could you do mine? Thanks :)

southpawboston

07-03-2007, 11:12 PM

Me please, THANK YOU! If you want me to put them right in the post I can do that for ya too.

sorry i missed them... i just dragged and dropped the pics in the thread. :o

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/070407.jpg

southpawboston

07-03-2007, 11:15 PM

Could you do mine? Thanks :)

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/070407b.jpg

TxMomma

07-03-2007, 11:19 PM

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/070407b.jpg

Perfect! Thanks so much!

Misty-Bug

07-04-2007, 12:36 AM

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I thought that angle was too far forward. I didn't feel comfortable with it. I reinstalled it. Can you check the new angle for me if I take a new picture?

Lara

07-04-2007, 01:42 AM

Thanks, Southpaw!!

Melizerd

07-04-2007, 07:35 AM

sorry i missed them... i just dragged and dropped the pics in the thread. :o

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/070407.jpg

thank you so much. I thought I was too reclined still. At least now I know :D
I have a really big bump in my seat, its visible in the pic. Its impossible to get a good upright install. I hate it.

Cindy&Connor

07-04-2007, 08:24 AM

Thank you so much!!!

cay22

07-04-2007, 09:13 AM

Thanks!!!!!!

OwensMama

07-04-2007, 11:30 AM

Thanks SPB. Now I just wonder how my Radian is so darn up right when most people say they can only get it at 45degrees. Not that its a problem though, but interesting nonetheless!

Judi

07-04-2007, 11:57 AM

Thanks SPB. Now I just wonder how my Radian is so darn up right when most people say they can only get it at 45degrees. Not that its a problem though, but interesting nonetheless!

In my 2000 Windstar, I don't have a 45 degree angle with the radian either!

Happytobeme

07-05-2007, 06:18 PM

Would you have a minute to look at mine please??!!

_Jessica_

07-05-2007, 10:39 PM

Could you check this one please?

http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z38/car-seatfreak/Safety%20First%20Intera/?action=view&current=100_1695.jpg

southpawboston

07-05-2007, 11:42 PM

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/070607.jpg

_Jessica_

07-06-2007, 12:53 AM

Thank you!

Happytobeme

07-06-2007, 09:28 AM

Hey!! I thought I was a lot further off
Thank you so much, now I just have to check thr rest of the installation:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

snowbird25ca

07-22-2007, 03:45 AM

Can you please check mine?

I put a receiving blanket folded tightly against the back of the car seat to help show where the line is, and edited in paint shop to put a line... no idea how to measure the angle myself, but I know the ss1 isn't easy to tell where baby's back is so hopefully this helps you.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/snowbird25ca//car%20seats/safeseatangleline.jpg

Thanks SPB. You rock for doing this thread. :D

cryswilkins

07-25-2007, 04:22 PM

I know that you probably have a life and a job, but could you check mine too? I just got it more upright than ever and I want to make sure it is not too upright.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m158/cryswilkins/DSC001911.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m158/cryswilkins/DSC001901.jpg

I can email the pictures too if you need me to. Thank you!

snowbird25ca

07-26-2007, 04:17 AM

I know that you probably have a life and a job, but could you check mine too? I just got it more upright than ever and I want to make sure it is not too upright.

I can email the pictures too if you need me to. Thank you!

I can't give you an angle, but I'm 99% sure that it's too upright I'd recline it some more. :thumbsup:

Melizerd

07-26-2007, 07:32 AM

We have to keep bumping because SPB forgets about this thread ;)

southpawboston

07-26-2007, 09:59 AM

lol, yes you are right melizard.

here they are:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/072607.jpg

Mama2J

07-26-2007, 11:07 AM

I've been seeing this thread come up periodically, and finally decided to see what it was about! Since it has been helpful to so many people, could we made it a sticky post so it stays at the top? Sorry if this has already been mentioned; I didn't read all the pages.

SBP, this is a great idea! :thumbsup: It would have been helpful for us when J was RF. I just put a folded towel under the front of the seat and guessed on the angle.

cryswilkins

07-26-2007, 11:09 AM

lol, yes you are right melizard.

here they are:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/072607.jpg

Dang! I will go adjust the tether. Thanks SPB!

Patriot201

07-26-2007, 12:13 PM

Dang! I will go adjust the tether. Thanks SPB!

31* is fine for an older child.

I guess at 8 months, though, your DD probably does need a bit more recline. :)

cryswilkins

07-26-2007, 12:23 PM

31* is fine for an older child.

I guess at 8 months, though, your DD probably does need a bit more recline. :)

I thought that it had to be between 45 and 35? Is it 30? My DD is really more comfortable that way. She has nose trouble and wants to see what is going on outside that car and this helps. She very rarely sleeps in the car and when she does her head doesn't flop. So in that case is she fine?

southpawboston

07-26-2007, 12:35 PM

by the time both of our DDs switched form infant seats to RFing convertibles, they were holding their heads up just fine, so we always had the angles close to 30 degrees.

cryswilkins

07-26-2007, 12:43 PM

by the time both of our DDs switched form infant seats to RFing convertibles, they were holding their heads up just fine, so we always had the angles close to 30 degrees.

Oh good, why was iIthinking that is was 35* :shrug-shoulders:. I am glad tho, she is happy with how it is and tall people don't eat the dash sitting in my passenger seat.

Patriot201

07-26-2007, 12:44 PM

Yup! 30* to 45* is the allowed range.

If your DD is more comfortable, keep it that way. :)

snowbird25ca

07-26-2007, 05:39 PM

Hey SPB, I got missed up above. Are you able to do mine please? :)

Can you please check mine?

I put a receiving blanket folded tightly against the back of the car seat to help show where the line is, and edited in paint shop to put a line... no idea how to measure the angle myself, but I know the ss1 isn't easy to tell where baby's back is so hopefully this helps you.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/snowbird25ca//car%20seats/safeseatangleline.jpg

Thanks SPB. You rock for doing this thread. :D

southpawboston

07-26-2007, 08:33 PM

Hey SPB, I got missed up above. Are you able to do mine please? :)

sorry, i spaced on that one. i saw the line and thought i had done it. :D

if i ask my CAD program for the angle of the line you drew, it comes to 41.57 degrees. so i won't bother saving and reposting the pic, if that's okay with you. nice trick with the folded blanket.

snowbird25ca

07-27-2007, 02:27 AM

sorry, i spaced on that one. i saw the line and thought i had done it. :D

if i ask my CAD program for the angle of the line you drew, it comes to 41.57 degrees. so i won't bother saving and reposting the pic, if that's okay with you. nice trick with the folded blanket.

Thanks. :) I remembered it was hard to tell where the back of the buckets are, so thought this would make it easier. And no prob - no need to repost the picture.

Melizerd

07-30-2007, 09:15 PM

New one for you to check SPB. :D TIA! I'll bump again if ya miss it.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/melickit/Misc%20pics/100_0239.jpg

southpawboston

07-30-2007, 09:33 PM

New one for you to check SPB. :D TIA! I'll bump again if ya miss it.

here ya' go:

http://homepage.mac.com/tutter/carseats/073007.jpg

Melizerd

08-01-2007, 07:28 PM

Is this one any better?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/melickit/Misc%20pics/100_0256.jpg

southpawboston

08-01-2007, 10:32 PM

pardon me for not re-posting it, i'm realizing it's much easier not to upload the modified pic to my server but just reply with the angle (besides, i think the novelty of seeing carseat pics with the fancy protractor lines has worn off :) ). the new angle is 43.4.

Misty-Bug

08-03-2007, 06:45 PM

alright. I got another picture. Would you mind checking the angle for me? GREATLY appreciated. Ignore the socks and sandals, they were a quick put on. Ignore the socks on teh seat. I didn't even see them there until the picture. LOL. My car usually IS NOT messy. LOL. Got stuff that needs to go to the church office too.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/Misty-bug/aug.2029.jpg

southpawboston

08-03-2007, 08:44 PM

i can't do this one accurately because the camera angle is way off--the camera is way too far to the right, and a bit high also. can you take another pic?

CDNTech

08-03-2007, 08:51 PM

i can't do this one accurately because the camera angle is way off--the camera is way too far to the right, and a bit high also. can you take another pic?

The second pic that you sent me via PM would be great for spb, I think.

Synchro246

08-03-2007, 09:11 PM

Oooh man. I feel like a dunce. When my oldest was RF his was WAY WAY WAY too reclined. I thought it was 45deg max from the horizontal :doh:

Misty-Bug

08-03-2007, 10:06 PM

i can't do this one accurately because the camera angle is way off--the camera is way too far to the right, and a bit high also. can you take another pic?

OH! I so posted the wrong one!! I am sorry. I was thinking the other one.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/Misty-bug/aug.3001.jpg

LEAW

08-04-2007, 06:56 PM

Me me! I fixed my Radian :) There are level objects in the background because the Wiz pic isn't level...

http://gallery.deadfrog.net/albums/Adventures/IMG_0961.sized.jpg
http://gallery.deadfrog.net/albums/Adventures/IMG_0962.sized.jpg

southpawboston

08-04-2007, 10:12 PM

OH! I so posted the wrong one!! I am sorry. I was thinking the other one.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/Misty-bug/aug.3001.jpg

31.48 degrees.

southpawboston

08-04-2007, 10:16 PM

Me me! I fixed my Radian :) There are level objects in the background because the Wiz pic isn't level...

http://gallery.deadfrog.net/albums/Adventures/IMG_0961.sized.jpg

32.77 degrees.

http://gallery.deadfrog.net/albums/Adventures/IMG_0962.sized.jpg

39.32 degrees.

Misty-Bug

08-05-2007, 12:03 AM

LEAW

08-05-2007, 09:59 AM

Rock ON! Thanks so much! I want to crank ds a little lower, but dh can't drive that way. Great to know I did manage to get teh Radian up more!!

mimieliza

09-20-2007, 06:29 PM

Are you up for more RFing angles? :)

I just installed my new BV. Let me know if this pic is okay:

http://mimieliza.smugmug.com/photos/198196196-M.jpg

Thank you!

Melizerd

09-20-2007, 06:57 PM

OMgosh what a cutie pie! She's simply adorable!

southpawboston

09-20-2007, 08:28 PM

Are you up for more RFing angles? :)

I just installed my new BV. Let me know if this pic is okay:

i'm getting 42.85 degrees.

mimieliza

09-21-2007, 01:26 AM

OMgosh what a cutie pie! She's simply adorable!

Thank you! I'm pretty fond of her, myself. :)

i'm getting 42.85 degrees.

Thank you so much!

Misty-Bug

11-10-2007, 06:07 PM

I found this link again. Was wondering if you can tell me the recline on my new seat. Although I am afraid cause it was a pain in the bum to install

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/Misty-bug/november62007007.jpg

southpawboston

11-10-2007, 09:26 PM

35.4 degrees on the radian.

Misty-Bug

11-10-2007, 10:06 PM

YAY!!! Thank you so much!! I am so happy I won't have to reinstall it. LOL. It is so low profile I was worried that it was too reclined. Thanks!!

michelle3802

11-17-2007, 02:13 AM

Ooo! Do me! Do me!

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc291/mbuttrum/PB140058.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc291/mbuttrum/PB140059.jpg

Thanks!

Synchro246

02-20-2008, 10:08 PM

I've got a couple that I'd like done purdy please.

ETA---loook at how badly the BV pushed DS's head forword-j/K, but that does look freaky
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z133/Synchro369/carseat%20stuff/IMGP3251.jpg

This one wasn't taken with the intent of being measured, so the camera is a little above the CR, but maybe you can do it anyway. . .
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z133/Synchro369/carseat%20stuff/2007mid-latedecember1.jpg

TIA

ProudMomof5

02-21-2008, 01:41 AM

I just took this one today for another thread on here... how is this recline? Could you also explain the 30 - 45 degree angle thing? Thanks.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/pumbaphant/Febpictures043.jpg

southpawboston

02-21-2008, 09:15 AM

synchro, you're at 34.1 degrees for the RF MA and 31.4 degrees for the FF BV.

proudmom, you're at 31.0 degrees for the scenera.

ProudMomof5

02-21-2008, 09:21 AM

proudmom, you're at 31.0 degrees for the scenera.

Thanks! Is that too much of a recline? I mean, I know the minimum is 30, right, but is it too close? Should I recline it more? (my dd is 16 mos.. if that makes a difference). Does having it more upright cause it to possibly rebound more in an accident?
Thanks.

southpawboston

02-21-2008, 09:24 AM

we had our scenera at 30 degrees when our DD2 was your kid's age. she did fine but her head did slump when she'd fall asleep.

there was a thread somewhere about dorel now saying you have to have the seat at the ful 45 degrees, i'm not sure, i didn't read the whole thread.

Synchro246

02-21-2008, 09:36 AM

synchro, you're at 34.1 degrees for the RF MA and 31.4 degrees for the FF BV.

Thanks :thumbsup: I think I'm going to recline him a bit more and probably take another pic. He seems to like it better a little more reclined.

veggiegirl228

02-21-2008, 12:30 PM

One more if you don't mind

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/veggiegirl228/carseats/DSCF6582.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/veggiegirl228/carseats/DSCF6580.jpg

southpawboston

02-21-2008, 01:37 PM

veggiegirl, the triumphs are really hard to estimate because they have a really rounded shell. i usually rely on a straight line on the side of the shell against which i measure the angle. so it's just guestimating when you don't have a straight line that rougly corresponds with the torso support section of the carseat. if i try to imagine where the torso runs on the EFTA i get about 38 degrees.

joolsplus3

02-21-2008, 02:30 PM

Thanks! Is that too much of a recline? I mean, I know the minimum is 30, right, but is it too close? Should I recline it more? (my dd is 16 mos.. if that makes a difference). Does having it more upright cause it to possibly rebound more in an accident?
Thanks.

No, it's really ok, you'll just get more sideways headflop when sleeping :) (upright is safer than reclined, because it spreads the forces out evenly all along the back, if it's reclined too much, the forces go into the shoulders a lot worse...either way it'll rebound, and that's only related to extremely minor injuries...the same kind kids get when learning to walk that often go undiagnosed...'orbital fractures'). So you're good :)

Calideedle

02-22-2008, 09:41 PM

Can someone do me? This is for my 2yr old.

(not sure which pic is best to use)

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r170/kolinavasmommy/100_0499.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r170/kolinavasmommy/100_0498.jpg

southpawboston

02-22-2008, 09:48 PM

calideedle, you're at 37.4 degrees in pic#1 and 38.3 in pic #2.

Calideedle

02-22-2008, 10:04 PM

Thats fine right?

Its 45 - 30 that okay?

southpawboston

02-22-2008, 10:26 PM

yep, 37 is fine.

Calideedle

02-22-2008, 10:32 PM

Thanks so much!

Synchro246

02-27-2008, 11:14 AM

Think you can do a tether angle? It's supposed to be less than 20*, right?
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z133/Synchro369/carseat%20stuff/IMGP3288-1.jpg

lauralou

02-27-2008, 11:55 AM

Someone want to help me.pweeze.tiahttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22/wheeler906/paxton356.jpg15 months,22lbs,30inches

munchkin

03-01-2008, 11:12 PM

Hi, could you (anyone) please do mine. Hopefully these pictures are good ones, if not I will take more tomorrow. Thanks:thumbsup:

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/2munchkin3/carseat/DSC00935.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/2munchkin3/carseat/DSC00936.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/2munchkin3/carseat/DSC00937.jpg

Calideedle

03-07-2008, 12:26 AM

Anyone wanna do these? :)

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r170/kolinavasmommy/100_0700.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r170/kolinavasmommy/100_0693.jpg

southpawboston

03-07-2008, 09:57 AM

Think you can do a tether angle? It's supposed to be less than 20*, right?

i get 43 degrees.

southpawboston

03-07-2008, 09:59 AM

Someone want to help me.pweeze.tia

i'm getting 41.7 degrees.

southpawboston

03-07-2008, 10:05 AM

Hi, could you (anyone) please do mine. Hopefully these pictures are good ones, if not I will take more tomorrow. Thanks:thumbsup:

36.5 for the FFing MA, and 34.0 for the RFing radian. this is assuming that your pic is straight (i used the last one). does the window's bottom age naturally slope like that or is it supposed to be horizontal? if the picture is crooked and needs to be rotated to the left, then the numbers would be recalibrated to 39.2 for the FFing MA and 30.3 for the RFing radian.

southpawboston

03-07-2008, 10:09 AM

Anyone wanna do these? :)

i'm getting 37.6 for the MA in the car and 44.9 in the truck (the truck pic was very crooked and i had to rotate it to the left to make the side window look level).

amy_6405

03-07-2008, 10:13 AM

What kind of recline should a RF seat be for a 10 month old? Right now I have DD's EFTA installed with the standard recline on it but I'm not sure if thats enough of a recline. I can try to take pictures if needed.

munchkin

03-07-2008, 10:32 AM

Thanks!

Is either of these better (there is a building in the back that can help with straight!)

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/2munchkin3/carseat/DSC00995.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/2munchkin3/carseat/DSC00993.jpg

Calideedle

03-07-2008, 11:14 AM

i'm getting 37.6 for the MA in the car and 44.9 in the truck (the truck pic was very crooked and i had to rotate it to the left to make the side window look level).

Thanks!!

I will try & get the recline in the truck higher, it was hard in there :(

ETA: this looks straighter
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r170/kolinavasmommy/100_0696.jpg

ali's mom

03-07-2008, 12:07 PM

Could you please check mine? Seat is for a 6 month old. Thank you!

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/shakerofsalt/OakIslandJan2008Tim103.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/shakerofsalt/OakIslandJan2008Tim104.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/shakerofsalt/OakIslandJan2008Tim105.jpg

MyBeachBabies

03-07-2008, 04:14 PM

Could someone check the angle on my Boulevard please? Thank you!

http://www.mybeachbabies.com/images/webblvd.jpg

ali's mom

03-10-2008, 09:15 AM

bump

southpawboston

03-10-2008, 04:15 PM

gimme a day or so to catch up... been busy!

ali's mom

03-10-2008, 06:08 PM

No problem!

southpawboston

03-10-2008, 08:05 PM

Thanks!

Is either of these better (there is a building in the back that can help with straight!)

now i'm getting 38.61 for the MA and 31.52 for the RDN.

southpawboston

03-10-2008, 09:07 PM

Thanks!!

I will try & get the recline in the truck higher, it was hard in there :(

i'm still getting close to my original angle. this time i get 43.78 degrees.

southpawboston

03-10-2008, 09:09 PM

Could you please check mine? Seat is for a 6 month old. Thank you!

this is too reclined-- i'm getting 47.29 degrees and 44.74 degrees on the first two pics.

southpawboston

03-10-2008, 09:12 PM

Could someone check the angle on my Boulevard please? Thank you!

i'm getting 43.63 degrees, but the BV is different. it has that bulky head pillow that pushes the head forward, so the child isn't as reclined as much as in a MA installed the same way.

MyBeachBabies

03-10-2008, 09:15 PM

Thanks so much!

munchkin

03-10-2008, 10:01 PM

31.52 for the RDN.

This is why I am getting rid of it! Thanks!

The Bjorns

03-13-2008, 09:55 PM

Let's see if I can post pictures here...never tried it before. Had a heck of a time getting the driver's side photos to show the seat.

This is my MA for an almost 7mo old (excellent head control) and about 19 lb:
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii211/DianeBjorn/Car%20Seat/Driversside1.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii211/DianeBjorn/Car%20Seat/Driversside2.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii211/DianeBjorn/Car%20Seat/Driversside3.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii211/DianeBjorn/Car%20Seat/Passengerside1.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii211/DianeBjorn/Car%20Seat/Passengerside2.jpg

southpawboston

03-13-2008, 10:31 PM

Let's see if I can post pictures here...never tried it before. Had a heck of a time getting the driver's side photos to show the seat.

This is my MA for an almost 7mo old (excellent head control) and about 19 lb

for the RFing seat i'm getting 41.33 from the right side and 39.87 from the left side. so about 40.6 on average. are you in socal by chance?

The Bjorns

03-14-2008, 01:36 PM

Thank you! I was having the hardest time getting the seat in so it wasn't leaning to one side. Guess I can pull harder on one side than the other.

Yup, I'm in SoCal! South Orange County (live in Mission Viejo and work in Dana Point).

ali's mom

03-14-2008, 02:59 PM

Since it was too reclined and I really wanted it in different position, let's try this again! Thank you!!!!

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/shakerofsalt/carseats006.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/shakerofsalt/carseats004.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l44/shakerofsalt/carseats008.jpg

southpawboston

03-14-2008, 03:34 PM

Yup, I'm in SoCal! South Orange County (live in Mission Viejo and work in Dana Point).

i thought as much but couldn't pin it... i miss san diego, lived there six years :love:

southpawboston

03-14-2008, 03:38 PM

Since it was too reclined and I really wanted it in different position, let's try this again! Thank you!!!!

i'm getting 43.4 when looking from the left side of the car, and 43.4 from the right side (which means your pictures were dead level! :thumbsup:)

ali's mom

03-14-2008, 04:11 PM

i'm getting 43.4 when looking from the left side of the car, and 43.4 from the right side (which means your pictures were dead level! :thumbsup:)

WooHoo! Thank you!

mommy_quigg

03-14-2008, 11:50 PM

Can you do mine? I'm still trying to find a place to tether it to so it's not tethered in these pics. Thanks!

Outboard
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/mommy_quigg/Car%20Seat%20Info/DSC06912.jpg

Centre
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/mommy_quigg/Car%20Seat%20Info/DSC06899.jpg

It has LATCH still in the FF belt path because I was just flipping it around to see how well it would install with the seatbelt. It was moved right back around and installed with LATCH FF. After removing the RF prop of course!

(if anyone sees anything wrong with my installs, please speak up :thumbsup: )

amy_6405

03-19-2008, 09:38 PM

southpawboston

03-19-2008, 10:24 PM

Can you do mine? I'm still trying to find a place to tether it to so it's not tethered in these pics. Thanks!

34.4 outboard

31.5 center

southpawboston

03-19-2008, 10:27 PM

Can you do mine?

DD is 10 months old, I have her EFTA in the rfing position and the arrow is level with the ground, but it seems a little upright to me, but maybe i'm just still used to her snugride

i'm going to estimate 38.5, only because it's hard to see where the torso line runs on the EFTA because it has a very rounded shell. it's much more of a guesstimate than with other seats.

mommy_quigg

03-19-2008, 11:29 PM

34.4 outboard 31.5 center

Thanks! That's a lot more upright than I'd thought they were.

amy_6405

03-20-2008, 08:03 AM

i'm going to estimate 38.5, only because it's hard to see where the torso line runs on the EFTA because it has a very rounded shell. it's much more of a guesstimate than with other seats.

Thanks! That sound be enough of a recline for a 10 month old right? I had to take out the head pillow because her head would slump forward when she fell asleep but now she doesn't seem to have that problem.

Synchro246

05-07-2008, 07:19 PM

Hey SPB, I switched Mick to the BV and we are having head slump issues. I think I have it as reclined the full 45* (eek--if not more), but my eyes maybe lying to me and if I can recline it more I want to.
What do you think?

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z133/Synchro369/carseat%20stuff/May72008044.jpg